Re: Joint 3rd : Mon Apr 22, 2019 8:47 pm  

Irregular Hoops wrote:

I also think if we were unbeaten and sitting on top of the league, it would kill some posters in here.

How would it?

Re: Joint 3rd : Mon Apr 22, 2019 8:52 pm  

Mrs Barista wrote:

Saints
Warrington
Castleford
Wakefield
Catalans

I never said I would be "so happy" with 5th, I said it would be more than I expect. As said, we have the backs/halves but Taylor carried our pack last year and continues to do so. Our props as a group, particularly if you discount Bowdeb and Green as no-shows, are just not a match for other sides in that list and we need a platform. Let's not reopen the Watts wound but...

Saints and Warrington goes without saying. They simply have better players than us. The Castleford squad is similar to ours in terms of quality, but Powell gets the best out of them. So I agree with those three. In pre season when we were making predictions they were my top 3. Injuries could derail Castleford, they have had some poor results themselves, but so far they are doing ok.

Catalans blow hot and cold. They beat the top 2 but have looked like a championship side at other times. Given that they always struggle away from home I would be disappointed if we end up behind them. Again their squad is comparable to ours in quality.

Wakefield just simply shouldn't be expected to be ahead of us. I don't really like the phrase "accepting mediocrity" that gets thrown around on here, but I can't understand how you can be expecting to finish behind Wakefield and be content with that. Chester has done a great job with them and there are some players there that would walk into our team. But they don't spend full cap, they play in a wreck of a ground with modest support, they have a squad comprised mostly of cast offs who failed elsewhere (we are one of the bigger contributors here) and they currently have a worse injury situation than we do.

Personally I consider 5th to be our minimum target. If we can't do that despite some big clubs having terrible seasons then we have failed, and questions have got to be asked.

Re: Joint 3rd : Mon Apr 22, 2019 8:54 pm  

Irregular Hoops wrote:

I also think if we were unbeaten and sitting on top of the league, it would kill some posters in here.

That is absolute rubbish. All I and many others want is for our club to be successful, indeed for a club with our support level in the premier uk competition we are arguably quite unsuccessful. Every time we seem to be about to achieve it all goes downhill. Winning the challenge cup is great but to be the best you have to win Super League, we are currently where Saints where a few years ago (seen as it was mentioned earlier), good players but inconsistent and needing that magical ingredient, Saints went and got their magical ingredient and backed him with top level recruitement, FCs management always seem to shop in the 'cross our fingers and pray' store ala Lee Radford, indeed he sort of got us there, then the inconsistency crept back in along with poor signings - for next season if we sign mediocre players and Radford doesnt show big improvement (which hes not shown hes able to do so far) then we'll almost be back at the level we were at the end of Gentles tenure over five years since that ended

Re: Joint 3rd : Mon Apr 22, 2019 9:01 pm  

Mrs Barista wrote:

Joint 3rd after 12 rounds. I was not expecting that.

Huge game coming up v Wakefield, a real "must win" if we want to stick in and around the play off spots. Hopefully some bodies back, best case vs today Shaul, Griffin, Houghton, Paea, Ellis, Lane? Suspect Shaul may still be missing along with Savelio and Bowden, but fingers crossed.

you would of been closer to third if St's hadn't rattled as points in as they did, look forward to next week

Re: Joint 3rd : Mon Apr 22, 2019 9:03 pm  

Joint 3rd lol
We are way behind the Top 4 and Cats could argue they should be above us

We’ve had a bigger demolition done on us than we did to Rovers and they are garbage
What does that say about us
GARBAGE

If you think joint 3rd (5th out of 12) is good enough then you must love being average
However middle of the road people eventually get run over !

Re: Joint 3rd : Mon Apr 22, 2019 9:03 pm  

Tinkerman23 wrote:

How would it?

Because there’d be no reason to come on here.

Re: Joint 3rd : Mon Apr 22, 2019 9:04 pm  

snowie wrote:

you would of been closer to third if St's hadn't rattled as points in as they did, look forward to next week

Thanks!

Re: Joint 3rd : Mon Apr 22, 2019 9:10 pm  

LR is astoundingly worried about how good Saints and Wire are

Re: Joint 3rd : Mon Apr 22, 2019 9:17 pm  

Mr. Zucchini Head wrote:

Saints and Warrington goes without saying. They simply have better players than us. The Castleford squad is similar to ours in terms of quality, but Powell gets the best out of them. So I agree with those three. In pre season when we were making predictions they were my top 3. Injuries could derail Castleford, they have had some poor results themselves, but so far they are doing ok.

Catalans blow hot and cold. They beat the top 2 but have looked like a championship side at other times. Given that they always struggle away from home I would be disappointed if we end up behind them. Again their squad is comparable to ours in quality.

Wakefield just simply shouldn't be expected to be ahead of us. I don't really like the phrase "accepting mediocrity" that gets thrown around on here, but I can't understand how you can be expecting to finish behind Wakefield and be content with that. Chester has done a great job with them and there are some players there that would walk into our team. But they don't spend full cap, they play in a wreck of a ground with modest support, they have a squad comprised mostly of cast offs who failed elsewhere (we are one of the bigger contributors here) and they currently have a worse injury situation than we do.

Personally I consider 5th to be our minimum target. If we can't do that despite some big clubs having terrible seasons then we have failed, and questions have got to be asked.

Catalans forwards are better than ours as a group IMO and they do exercise home advantage. I hear you on Wakey but they've been knocking on the door of top 4 a while and I love the mix of their squad - big no nonsense forwards, pacey backs, shrewd halves. Pre season I thought Wigan would be up there - not unreasonable - whereas we had diluted our forwards with selling Watts mid season, Mini and Manu a year older, Bowden and Green out long term. I don't believe my opinions are as unreasonable as you think they are.

Re: Joint 3rd : Mon Apr 22, 2019 9:24 pm  

Nope. You're 5th.