Re: Best & Worst Combined 13 : Thu Nov 21, 2019 11:54 pm  

Dave K. wrote:

Only change I'd make would be Cooke and Horne at 6/7, Ellis and Manu (better than Mini) and jason Smith at LF (Best player I have seen in a Hull shirt)

Some good players Mini, Carvell, Talanoa, Best, Houghton, Sneyd, Raynor etc not making the side

I thought on the pitch Tansey was pretty good, wouldn't have him in at FB, I'd have Todd Byrne at FB.

But harsh on Byrne, thought he was doing a decent job until he got injured

Re: Best & Worst Combined 13 : Fri Nov 22, 2019 1:45 am  

mwindass wrote:

Just a bit of fun to get us through the off season

Whats the worst & best combined 13 you can think of? I've only been following Hull since the early 2000, so just based my 'teams' on that time period.

The worst team was harder to put together than I thought....

Worst
1 - Tansey
2 - Colbon
3 - Saxton
4 - Eager
5 - Crookes
6 - Seymour
7 - Thorman
8 - Hutch Maiava
9 - Howarth
10 - Lauaki
11 - Galea
12 - McNicholas
13 - Paul Johnson

Best
1 - Prescott
2 - Fonua
3 - Barnett
4 - Yeaman
5 - Briscoe
6 - Horne
7 - Sneyd
8 - Taylor
9 - Swain
10 - Watts
11 - Ellis
12 - Minichiello
13 - Cooke

In my best team I would include Best,Cooke,O'Meley, Manu and Jason Smith. Cooke would partner Horne.

Re: Best & Worst Combined 13 : Fri Nov 22, 2019 3:02 am  

MorningGlory23 wrote:

But harsh on Byrne, thought he was doing a decent job until he got injured

Totally average, solid and nothing else, no skill or pace.

Type of overseas player we seem to avoid signing these days.

Re: Best & Worst Combined 13 : Fri Nov 22, 2019 12:09 pm  

Willie Manu and Jason Smith are my 2 favourite Hull FC players. Exceptional

Re: Best & Worst Combined 13 : Sat Nov 23, 2019 9:04 am  

Wilde 3 wrote:

Willie Manu and Jason Smith are my 2 favourite Hull FC players. Exceptional

Totally agree, how anyone could not have them not in 13 for the best SL is beyond me. Other positions can be argued but we haven't had a better LF (Or player) than Smith or a better wide backorder than Manu.

Re: Best & Worst Combined 13 : Sat Nov 23, 2019 5:42 pm  

Dave K. wrote:

If you are basing it performances than Tansey was streets ahead of Byrne, there was a spell were he was fantastic, absolute nightmare off the pitch though. Byrne was the very very average.

Byrne did a job, but agree he offered nothing special and was a waste of an overseas spot. See also Peter Cusack 'steady' at best but offered nothing a cheaper British player couldent have done.

Surely have to add Wade McKinnon into the mix for bad fullbacks, allegedly on a good wage and having been in the NRL for years must have been good at some point but apparently an awful attitude, left after a few months.

Re: Best & Worst Combined 13 : Mon Nov 25, 2019 10:10 am  

UllFC wrote:

Surely have to add Wade McKinnon into the mix for bad fullbacks, allegedly on a good wage and having been in the NRL for years must have been good at some point but apparently an awful attitude, left after a few months.

Never seen a player look so absent in a Hull shirt as him in his last game. The story was his wife had gone home already after catching him sampling the local nightlife, guess he knew he was going home to a world of pain.

Re: Best & Worst Combined 13 : Mon Nov 25, 2019 5:43 pm  

the cal train wrote:

Never seen a player look so absent in a Hull shirt as him in his last game. The story was his wife had gone home already after catching him sampling the local nightlife, guess he knew he was going home to a world of pain.

He's now better employed putting out fires with his hose.

Re: Best & Worst Combined 13 : Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:17 am  

UllFC wrote:

Byrne did a job, but agree he offered nothing special and was a waste of an overseas spot. See also Peter Cusack 'steady' at best but offered nothing a cheaper British player couldent have done.

Surely have to add Wade McKinnon into the mix for bad fullbacks, allegedly on a good wage and having been in the NRL for years must have been good at some point but apparently an awful attitude, left after a few months.

Wade McKinnon was actually very good in the short time he was here. Things just didn't work out.

Looking at the teams the OP posted, I had completely forgotten that Paul Johnson ever played for us, and even now I have been reminded of it I literally can't think of one moment of him in a Hull shirt. I guess if he was that forgetful it is probably fair to have him in the "worst" team.

In these "best" teams, there is always a debate in whether you simply choose the best players or the ones who had the longevity and brought the most to the club. Its very hard. For example, Kelly is probably a better player than Richard Horne was, but how can you leave Horne out after all he did for the club?

I aren't going to try to make a team, but I will throw a few names forward that haven't been mentioned yet.

As a kid of 10/11 Tony Grimaldi is one of the first players that I remember really admiring for his grit and determination rather than for being anything flashy. He has probably being usurped in his position by Ellis and a couple of others, but he certainly deserves a mention.

Stephen Kearney wasn't here long, but there is no way imo that we win the cup without him in 2005. Everything that a leader should be.

Danny Tickle wasn't a superstar but was very reliable for a long time. Both in his general play and his kicking.

Ewan Dowes started to get a lot of stick later in his career when he perhaps started to lose some impact. But in 2005/2006 you could have made a case for him being the best prop in SL.

Matty Head is still the most gifted 7 we have had in the SL era. Its a shame that injuries cut his stay so short.

Motu Tony got stick from some when he took Briscoe's FB spot, but I thought he was a superb player. Very versatile and gave us some really iconic moments. Then obviously came back and did a lot for us off the field as well.

Re: Best & Worst Combined 13 : Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:38 am  

Mr. Zucchini Head wrote:

Wade McKinnon was actually very good in the short time he was here. Things just didn't work out.

Looking at the teams the OP posted, I had completely forgotten that Paul Johnson ever played for us, and even now I have been reminded of it I literally can't think of one moment of him in a Hull shirt. I guess if he was that forgetful it is probably fair to have him in the "worst" team.

In these "best" teams, there is always a debate in whether you simply choose the best players or the ones who had the longevity and brought the most to the club. Its very hard. For example, Kelly is probably a better player than Richard Horne was, but how can you leave Horne out after all he did for the club?

I aren't going to try to make a team, but I will throw a few names forward that haven't been mentioned yet.

As a kid of 10/11 Tony Grimaldi is one of the first players that I remember really admiring for his grit and determination rather than for being anything flashy. He has probably being usurped in his position by Ellis and a couple of others, but he certainly deserves a mention.

Stephen Kearney wasn't here long, but there is no way imo that we win the cup without him in 2005. Everything that a leader should be.

Danny Tickle wasn't a superstar but was very reliable for a long time. Both in his general play and his kicking.

Ewan Dowes started to get a lot of stick later in his career when he perhaps started to lose some impact. But in 2005/2006 you could have made a case for him being the best prop in SL.

Matty Head is still the most gifted 7 we have had in the SL era. Its a shame that injuries cut his stay so short.

Motu Tony got stick from some when he took Briscoe's FB spot, but I thought he was a superb player. Very versatile and gave us some really iconic moments. Then obviously came back and did a lot for us off the field as well.

Ewan Dowes “best prop in SL” is without doubt the funniest thing I have ever read.