Re: Hodgson : Sat Sep 18, 2021 7:19 am  

Plum Bob wrote:

Excepting the results what do you actually base that on. Genuine question! What do you see?

I think for a lot of fans who have experienced a lot of coaches over the years feel that the fact that his comments on the attitude and feeling and indeed the wanting in the camp leading up to games bears no resemblance to what happens when the team actually takes to the field is a telling indication. Its acceptable occasionally of course it is, attitude is a difficult one to control but of late it has been a regular occurrence. talk like world beaters play like egg beaters.

Re: Hodgson : Sat Sep 18, 2021 7:30 am  

Ian Watsons Huddersfield were meant to be dark horses this season but all we've heard from him is about how it takes time to put systems in place, it looks like FC are in the same boat, Huddersfield made plenty of changes for this season and look what it did for them.
Hodgsons problem is that he's got a very vocal boss that's probably putting more pressure on him with his comments.

Re: Hodgson : Sat Sep 18, 2021 7:38 am  

bishops finger wrote:

Ian Watsons Huddersfield were meant to be dark horses this season but all we've heard from him is about how it takes time to put systems in place, it looks like FC are in the same boat, Huddersfield made plenty of changes for this season and look what it did for them.
Hodgsons problem is that he's got a very vocal boss that's probably putting more pressure on him with his comments.

Yes but there always has been and always will be more pressure on the coach at clubs like Hull FC, Leeds and Warrington compared to, say, Huddersfield, Hull KR and Castleford. Doesn't matter who the owner or coach is at any particular time.

Re: Hodgson : Sat Sep 18, 2021 8:24 am  

There’s been a common theme at the club regarding culture, all the way back to when Bomber first called it out.

The promises of reviews and changes won’t wash anymore, as we’ve heard it countless times over the years.

I’m at the point that I’d rather be part time, in a league below, watching players put a shift in and enjoying watching rugby again.

Re: Hodgson : Sat Sep 18, 2021 8:43 am  

ComeOnYouUll wrote:

Yes but there always has been and always will be more pressure on the coach at clubs like Hull FC, Leeds and Warrington compared to, say, Huddersfield, Hull KR and Castleford. Doesn't matter who the owner or coach is at any particular time.

I get that but the point I'm making is that it won't be helping Hodgson when his Boss is telling everyone that there's going to be massive changes to the playing squad, that just adds to the pressure, I only used Watson as a comparison as he was new in the job to and had a lot of expectations on him aswell.

Re: Hodgson : Sat Sep 18, 2021 8:50 am  

As it stands and I hope it will change, but I'm not sure there will be a set of fans less confident about next season, even Hudds, they have a few new players coming in and some exciting youngsters.

We look like having a similar squad and going into next season with the worst pivots in SL.

Re: Hodgson : Sat Sep 18, 2021 9:02 am  

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Dave K. wrote:

As it stands and I hope it will change, but I'm not sure there will be a set of fans less confident about next season, even Hudds, they have a few new players coming in and some exciting youngsters.

We look like having a similar squad and going into next season with the worst pivots in SL.

I tried saying on here the other day that the best way to fill your squad out is by bringing in younger hungry lads from the championship, they maybe won't be first team starters but after being in a full time environment you'd hope they'll get there so when injuries bite there ready. IMHO opinion the player pool isn't big enough to make wholesale changes, which is probably why your linked with Joe Wardle

Re: Hodgson : Sat Sep 18, 2021 9:14 am  

bishops finger wrote:

[youtube][/youtube]I tried saying on here the other day that the best way to fill your squad out is by bringing in younger hungry lads from the championship, they maybe won't be first team starters but after being in a full time environment you'd hope they'll get there so when injuries bite there ready. IMHO opinion the player pool isn't big enough to make wholesale changes, which is probably why your linked with Joe Wardle

The only way we can bring in the quality players needed would be to either play transfer fees or sign from overseas, the 2nd option would mean trying to release a couple of contracted overseas players.

Re: Hodgson : Sat Sep 18, 2021 9:22 am  

Dave K. wrote:

The only way we can bring in the quality players needed would be to either play transfer fees or sign from overseas, the 2nd option would mean trying to release a couple of contracted overseas players.

It's pretty rare that players are released early from contracts Dave because that means paying them off and there isn't a lot of money in rugby to pay them off with is there?

Re: Hodgson : Sat Sep 18, 2021 9:35 am  

bishops finger wrote:

It's pretty rare that players are released early from contracts Dave because that means paying them off and there isn't a lot of money in rugby to pay them off with is there?

I think AP has done it once before, when he paid off a few players , the likes of Arundel etc. I’m sure he said It cost him upwards of £250K (might have remembered the amount wrong though, might have been even more).

We haven’t got the money to do it now for sure. Now AP has alluded to changing the squad around, it could actually make things more difficult. Other clubs will know we’re desperate to get rid, and it will be easy for them to play hardball.
There again, who would want some of them on the wages they’re on?