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Re: betts out : Fri Aug 09, 2013 10:57 am  
I wouldn't disagree with you OFFTHECUFF about the choice of players. I've said for a long time now that some of the bottom Super League teams should be looking at Championship players.

The problem is though that the Super League clubs would have to compensate some of the lads playing in the Championship if they were to go full time, as some of them have decent jobs, and the likelihood would be that the clubs would want the players for next to nothing pay.

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Re: betts out : Fri Aug 09, 2013 11:50 am  
CAMS i know that some players in the Championship cant give up their jobs because on good money.But not all of them because some probably could go fulltime like Chris Hill and Sam Hopkins recently.I even said on the Widnes board a few years ago, we should try Sam Hopkins and guess what Wigan recently sign him.I do wonder what the Widnes scouts do, and it seems Betts dismisses the look out for players in the Championship.All the news is in the local papers,rugby papers, and watching games by travelling, or on Premier Sports.I understand not all can step up to Superleague level though, and on a positive i hope we win on Sunday. :lol: :wink:

Some jobs you can easily go back to work, and if i was working in a warehouse, or Macdonalds then Rugby be first due to a short career.There is time to do some courses in spare time because players can not train for 8 hours a day. I bet you could volunteer to go with tradesmen to do plumbing,plastering,painting,electrics etc.If say earn £30,000 a year and a part time rugby for £15000, then i can see why players stay in the Championship, if only offered £30,000 fulltime.So CAMS i do see your point of view.
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Re: betts out : Fri Aug 09, 2013 1:06 pm  
You should become a championship agent Cuffy ;)
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Re: betts out : Sat Aug 10, 2013 9:25 am  
OFFTHECUFF wrote:
CAMS i know that some players in the Championship cant give up their jobs because on good money.But not all of them because some probably could go fulltime like Chris Hill and Sam Hopkins recently.I even said on the Widnes board a few years ago, we should try Sam Hopkins and guess what Wigan recently sign him.I do wonder what the Widnes scouts do, and it seems Betts dismisses the look out for players in the Championship.All the news is in the local papers,rugby papers, and watching games by travelling, or on Premier Sports.I understand not all can step up to Superleague level though, and on a positive i hope we win on Sunday. :lol: :wink:

Some jobs you can easily go back to work, and if i was working in a warehouse, or Macdonalds then Rugby be first due to a short career.There is time to do some courses in spare time because players can not train for 8 hours a day. I bet you could volunteer to go with tradesmen to do plumbing,plastering,painting,electrics etc.If say earn £30,000 a year and a part time rugby for £15000, then i can see why players stay in the Championship, if only offered £30,000 fulltime.So CAMS i do see your point of view.


I guess that now relegation is back clubs will be even more reluctant to go to the Championship for players (and by the same token Championship players may be more wary). We are back to the need for "instant success" this is going to cause Widnes a real headache I would think as they now need to find 6 or 7 "finished article" players to bolster the side for next season as they cannot take the risk that several players in the current squad will develop further and can be supplemented by 3 or 4 quality additions.

Short termism is back with a bang, with all the risks of clubs bankrupting themselves to stay alive in Superleague. Maybe the likes of Wigan, Warrington and Leeds can cream off the best Championship players, because they have the squads that are already big enough and good enough to absorb them and bring them on, but those teams likely to be in the relegation dog fight will want to spend every penny on proven players!
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