[Wanderer]

: Tue Jan 27, 2009 9:44 pm  

Karlos wrote:

I would if I could get away with it.Thing is im as thick as pigshit when it comes to computers so I cant cover my tracks.Its also the missis's laptop so if theres any filth on it its her to blame!

Good call.

: Tue Jan 27, 2009 10:26 pm  

Oh my were entering the dark waters of IP addressing, be warned all who enter here. Yes Karlos the white sky negear thingymabob is a router and its pronounced Rooter, unless your American Right if you are behind a router the only thing publically visable to the outside world is the router interface that connects to the internet. This gains what is refered to as a public IP address which is provided by your ISP. Dependant on your ISP this IP can change (its not a problem) or it can be static. All your computers, consoles, smartphones or any other devices are on a private network behind your router. These are assigned IP addresses on what are called private address ranges, as part of the TCP/IP protocol these addresses are not passed to the internet and are purely used by devices which are internal to your network. Just to scare you all, if you were to find out your computers IP address by going to the start menu on your pc, choosing run, entering CMD, then and the black screen of doom type ipconfig I would lay money that the majority of you have the IP address of either: 192.168.1.2 or 192.168.0.2 with subnet mask of 255.255.255.0 and a default gate wat of either 192.168.1.1 or 192.168.0.1. To prove that point heres mine Im very confident in posting it here that im safe and no one can attack me These are private IP addresses we can all have the same one, I do So back on topic of computer protection now, a router will not by default allow any unsolicated traffic into a network that did not originate within it. It acts like the most surley nightclub bouncer...your names not down your not coming in. But if you have the magic stamp on the back of your hand you can come in. Worse case scenario is that a hacker can see your router, if you've changed the default password to access it, or its arealdy a secure one or the abilty to access it from the web has been disabled (it is by default on most routers) there is very little they can do with it to gain access to your computers inside your network The only way something can get into your network with a router is if you invite it in.

Oh my were entering the dark waters of IP addressing, be warned all who enter here. Yes Karlos the white sky negear thingymabob is a router and its pronounced Rooter, unless your American Right if you are behind a router the only thing publically visable to the outside world is the router interface that connects to the internet. This gains what is refered to as a public IP address which is provided by your ISP. Dependant on your ISP this IP can change (its not a problem) or it can be static. All your computers, consoles, smartphones or any other devices are on a private network behind your router. These are assigned IP addresses on what are called private address ranges, as part of the TCP/IP protocol these addresses are not passed to the internet and are purely used by devices which are internal to your network. Just to scare you all, if you were to find out your computers IP address by going to the start menu on your pc, choosing run, entering CMD, then and the black screen of doom type ipconfig I would lay money that the majority of you have the IP address of either: 192.168.1.2 or 192.168.0.2 with subnet mask of 255.255.255.0 and a default gate wat of either 192.168.1.1 or 192.168.0.1. To prove that point heres mine Im very confident in posting it here that im safe and no one can attack me These are private IP addresses we can all have the same one, I do So back on topic of computer protection now, a router will not by default allow any unsolicated traffic into a network that did not originate within it. It acts like the most surley nightclub bouncer...your names not down your not coming in. But if you have the magic stamp on the back of your hand you can come in. Worse case scenario is that a hacker can see your router, if you've changed the default password to access it, or its arealdy a secure one or the abilty to access it from the web has been disabled (it is by default on most routers) there is very little they can do with it to gain access to your computers inside your network The only way something can get into your network with a router is if you invite it in.

: Wed Jan 28, 2009 4:55 pm  

Switched to Avira yesterday after reading this thread. Very impressed.

Cheers Steve

: Wed Jan 28, 2009 7:17 pm  

Thanks Steve, very useful information.

: Wed Jan 28, 2009 9:11 pm  

My Name's Dick wrote:

Now you're in my domain , a Router is a woodworking machine, it has many uses and can be a very profitable piece of equipment if used correctly LMFAO !!!!!!!!!!!

: Sun Feb 01, 2009 11:16 am  

SteveRoebuck wrote: Oh my were entering the dark waters of IP addressing, be warned all who enter here. Yes Karlos the white sky negear thingymabob is a router and its pronounced Rooter, unless your American Right if you are behind a router the only thing publically visable to the outside world is the router interface that connects to the internet. This gains what is refered to as a public IP address which is provided by your ISP. Dependant on your ISP this IP can change (its not a problem) or it can be static. All your computers, consoles, smartphones or any other devices are on a private network behind your router. These are assigned IP addresses on what are called private address ranges, as part of the TCP/IP protocol these addresses are not passed to the internet and are purely used by devices which are internal to your network. Just to scare you all, if you were to find out your computers IP address by going to the start menu on your pc, choosing run, entering CMD, then and the black screen of doom type ipconfig I would lay money that the majority of you have the IP address of either: 192.168.1.2 or 192.168.0.2 with subnet mask of 255.255.255.0 and a default gate wat of either 192.168.1.1 or 192.168.0.1. To prove that point heres mine Im very confident in posting it here that im safe and no one can attack me These are private IP addresses we can all have the same one, I do So back on topic of computer protection now, a router will not by default allow any unsolicated traffic into a network that did not originate within it. It acts like the most surley nightclub bouncer...your names not down your not coming in. But if you have the magic stamp on the back of your hand you can come in. Worse case scenario is that a hacker can see your router, if you've changed the default password to access it, or its arealdy a secure one or the abilty to access it from the web has been disabled (it is by default on most routers) there is very little they can do with it to gain access to your computers inside your network The only way something can get into your network with a router is if you invite it in. Very technical that mate.Im impressed!! Seriously though thanks for the help.

SteveRoebuck wrote: Oh my were entering the dark waters of IP addressing, be warned all who enter here. Yes Karlos the white sky negear thingymabob is a router and its pronounced Rooter, unless your American Right if you are behind a router the only thing publically visable to the outside world is the router interface that connects to the internet. This gains what is refered to as a public IP address which is provided by your ISP. Dependant on your ISP this IP can change (its not a problem) or it can be static. All your computers, consoles, smartphones or any other devices are on a private network behind your router. These are assigned IP addresses on what are called private address ranges, as part of the TCP/IP protocol these addresses are not passed to the internet and are purely used by devices which are internal to your network. Just to scare you all, if you were to find out your computers IP address by going to the start menu on your pc, choosing run, entering CMD, then and the black screen of doom type ipconfig I would lay money that the majority of you have the IP address of either: 192.168.1.2 or 192.168.0.2 with subnet mask of 255.255.255.0 and a default gate wat of either 192.168.1.1 or 192.168.0.1. To prove that point heres mine Im very confident in posting it here that im safe and no one can attack me These are private IP addresses we can all have the same one, I do So back on topic of computer protection now, a router will not by default allow any unsolicated traffic into a network that did not originate within it. It acts like the most surley nightclub bouncer...your names not down your not coming in. But if you have the magic stamp on the back of your hand you can come in. Worse case scenario is that a hacker can see your router, if you've changed the default password to access it, or its arealdy a secure one or the abilty to access it from the web has been disabled (it is by default on most routers) there is very little they can do with it to gain access to your computers inside your network The only way something can get into your network with a router is if you invite it in. Very technical that mate.Im impressed!! Seriously though thanks for the help.

: Tue Feb 03, 2009 8:46 pm  

SteveRoebuck wrote: Some advice from the pro's now AVG is the computing equivalent of the chocolate fireguard, it stops windows moaning about not having any Antivirus but thats about it. Also within the current version of AVG it has a nasty habit of redirecting all your web traffic through AVG, and while you said you do nothing dodgy, this can have a detrimental effect on your browsing speed. So free options you can look at for AV protection are Avast as someone already mention is good, but can be a little resource hungry on your PC. I,m still learning about computers so I wonder if I could get a bit of advice? On my computer is something called Java and something called Paper Port. Are these serving a useful purpose or could they be deleted? A better option would be Avira. This rates very highly in most virus protection reviews and outperforms most paid for products, its my personal choice of AV. Spybot as suggested by Rob is excellent for keeping all the nasties that aint viruses away. If you are using router you have no need for a firewall on your desktop PC, tho if you are using an ADSL USB modem, or one of those Mobile Broadband dongle things then you will need a firewall. If anyone wants anymore PC advice just ask

SteveRoebuck wrote: Some advice from the pro's now AVG is the computing equivalent of the chocolate fireguard, it stops windows moaning about not having any Antivirus but thats about it. Also within the current version of AVG it has a nasty habit of redirecting all your web traffic through AVG, and while you said you do nothing dodgy, this can have a detrimental effect on your browsing speed. So free options you can look at for AV protection are Avast as someone already mention is good, but can be a little resource hungry on your PC. I,m still learning about computers so I wonder if I could get a bit of advice? On my computer is something called Java and something called Paper Port. Are these serving a useful purpose or could they be deleted? A better option would be Avira. This rates very highly in most virus protection reviews and outperforms most paid for products, its my personal choice of AV. Spybot as suggested by Rob is excellent for keeping all the nasties that aint viruses away. If you are using router you have no need for a firewall on your desktop PC, tho if you are using an ADSL USB modem, or one of those Mobile Broadband dongle things then you will need a firewall. If anyone wants anymore PC advice just ask

: Wed Feb 04, 2009 10:50 am  

No Problemo Guys

Took me a while to find your question in ther Glyn, Java is usefull and you will need it to access certain sites on the web, its basical a programming language that websites use.

Paperport is some software assoicated with the scanning and organising of documents, you can remove it if you dont use this facility.

Hope that helps.

: Wed Feb 04, 2009 3:55 pm  

SteveRoebuck wrote:

No Problemo Guys

Took me a while to find your question in ther Glyn, Java is usefull and you will need it to access certain sites on the web, its basical a programming language that websites use.

Paperport is some software assoicated with the scanning and organising of documents, you can remove it if you dont use this facility.

Hope that helps.

Thanks for that Steve, sorry I buried the question.You did,nt mention the consultancy fee !!!

: Wed Feb 04, 2009 4:00 pm  

oh im not like Maureen from those adverts

Of course I could suggest that if your interested in learning more about PC Technical stuff you could attend a course at the College, they start in September Apply Now