Re: C1 Oldham (Away) - 01/05/11 : Mon May 02, 2011 9:08 am  

With regards to kesik. Nobody at the game saw the reasoning behind the sending of so wouldn't be fair to comment. So far he has missed 1 game through a ban and may miss 2 more. Not exactly half a season and people on holiday have missed more.

[Wanderer]

Re: C1 Oldham (Away) - 01/05/11 : Mon May 02, 2011 9:13 am  

kkk wrote:

With regards to kesik. Nobody at the game saw the reasoning behind the sending of so wouldn't be fair to comment. So far he has missed 1 game through a ban and may miss 2 more. Not exactly half a season and people on holiday have missed more.

But I'm sure you take my point that it's better that he's on the pitch not in the stands.

Re: C1 Oldham (Away) - 01/05/11 : Mon May 02, 2011 11:56 am  

Wanderer wrote:

There have been comments after some previous games about lack of creativity (and as I missed todays game I am not in a position to pass judgement on todays performance) but todays line up included;

Craig Fawcett
Aaron Dobek
Scott Spaven
Paul Hughes
Kyle Kesik
Jack Ely

who have all played half back .... I'd be interested to know if the creativity improved for having all these ball-handlers in the 17?

The simple answer to this is no. Once again though i believe we lost the game through our poor defence. Too many missed tackles, not enough in your face tough tackling. We improved as the first half went on and at half time i thought we could kick on and actually win the game. Not sure what sort of team talk we had but we basically handed the game to Oldham in the first 15 mins of the 2nd half. We really needed to be solid during this period but were once again slow out of the blocks. Too many unforced errors, in fact i think we offloaded in the tackle 3 times straight to an Oldham player. I have to say i left feeling very dissapointed and despondant. After the previous defeats i have always felt there were a number of bright points, not yesterday though.

I know we are not going to be able to attract top players and still stay within budget but i do belive we have players who are more han good enough to compete at this level, and a few of them higher than our current level. What is really worrying me is we dont seem to be able to do the basic things consistently well. You dont need to have world beaters to make a competitive team if you have good coaching. I'm a little reluctant to throw this into the pot but is this where the problem lies? we are still leaving Kesik on the bench from the start and only bringing him on after 20 mins, by which time we are normally a few tries down. Once again he made a difference yesterday!. Yes he does have a fiery temper although yesterday really didn't look to be anything but handbacks and we were all shocked when both players were sent off.

Finally, how the heel are Oldham allowed to play in such a poop hole. Whitehaven is a palace compared to that dump. I think it very unlikely i will travel there again. The spectators view is totally poop and the porta loos stank. I understand they couldn't play at boundary Park but surely a minimum standard should be ensured for rugby at this semi pro level. Maybe i am being a bit of a ground snob as we have the Keepmoat, on second thoughts no i'm not its a total poop hole.

Anyway, we will see how we go against Wakefield. On todays performance i would suggets anything under a 50 point drubbing will be a good result.

Re: C1 Oldham (Away) - 01/05/11 : Mon May 02, 2011 3:50 pm  

kkk wrote:

With regards to kesik. Nobody at the game saw the reasoning behind the sending of so wouldn't be fair to comment. So far he has missed 1 game through a ban and may miss 2 more. Not exactly half a season and people on holiday have missed more.

From what I've been able to find out (having not seen the sending off), there are several people who are slightly miffed with the sending off...

Re: C1 Oldham (Away) - 01/05/11 : Mon May 02, 2011 4:40 pm  

Bet Kes is one!

Re: C1 Oldham (Away) - 01/05/11 : Mon May 02, 2011 4:55 pm  

Sorry to hear we weren't very good, but Oldham usually win at their place, so a defeat was odds on.

I was on holiday, not that I would have gone and not that I will go to any away games in this terribly, geographically challenged division. The sooner we get back in with the likes of Fev, Eagles, Batley, Dewsbury, Hunslet and York the better both for our personal travelling interest and the future of this club.
To languish in this division is to invite failure and extinction.

But how can we get out when we can't win a significant number of away games?
It's disheartening. And being optimistic achieves nothing only relentless disappointment, better to be a pessimist and get pleasantly surprised once in a while.

OK so we are just half a dozen points from contention people can argue, but we have just lost 4 on the trot and are in danger of losing another three on the trot.

Anyway I'll keep watching regardless.
We can only get better.
COYD

Re: C1 Oldham (Away) - 01/05/11 : Mon May 02, 2011 6:04 pm  

I didn't see the sending off. From speaking to people could you clarify whether it should or shouldn't have been a sending off?

From what i saw neither our player or the Oldham player deserved the sending off--
Having said that i thought the ref yesterday had an excellent game up to that point.

Re: C1 Oldham (Away) - 01/05/11 : Mon May 02, 2011 6:11 pm  

kkk wrote:

I didn't see the sending off. From speaking to people could you clarify whether it should or shouldn't have been a sending off?

From what i saw neither our player or the Oldham player deserved the sending off-- but the official reason given was Kesik for a high tackle and Boults for retaliating to it.

Having said that i thought the ref yesterday had an excellent game up to that point.

Re: C1 Oldham (Away) - 01/05/11 : Mon May 02, 2011 7:04 pm  

DRAGONFAN wrote: From what i saw neither our player or the Oldham player deserved the sending off-- Having said that i thought the ref yesterday had an excellent game up to that point. http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/autho ... enger.html

DRAGONFAN wrote: From what i saw neither our player or the Oldham player deserved the sending off-- Having said that i thought the ref yesterday had an excellent game up to that point. http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/autho ... enger.html

Re: C1 Oldham (Away) - 01/05/11 : Mon May 02, 2011 10:30 pm  

mr-rugby wrote:

sometimes havin too many half backs is a bad thing! too many cheifs and not enough indians

Which would suggest a lack of instruction and guidance from the bench.