Re: Rochdale v Doncaster Sunday 15/8/2021 3pm : Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:05 pm  

Top Post Wanderer.

Difficult to visualise where the next points are going to come from, maybe a close one with Coventry. As for the other games it is hard to see a positive outcome at the moment. Very sad to see especially given the performance at North Wales, which seems a distant memory.

Re: Rochdale v Doncaster Sunday 15/8/2021 3pm : Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:08 pm  

Keith Lard's Dog wrote:

I don't get why the club is being so secretive with regards to players being injured, most of the players post on Twitter or Instagram like Watson and Misi who both look to be season long injuries as I assume is Hedges.

With no sign of Ricketts and Carter all season I'm sure some comment from the club would be appropriate given the ill feeling among the supporters.

I believe its done so the opposition Coaches can't get an edge on us by knowing what ails a player. Here is a clue Mr Horne "It appears that ship may have set sail"

Re: Rochdale v Doncaster Sunday 15/8/2021 3pm : Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:23 pm  

Mind games might work in the top flight - but sadly trying to use those at the Dons level is causing much more harm than good.

We will be lucky to make the playoffs if we do scrape in it will be more by luck than design and then it will be a short lived and disappointing adventure, some of the signings we made close season have been good others have yet to appear (if they ever will) and we clearly failed to address clear gaps in the squad (Full back). Our successes this year have largely been down to how excellent Matty Beharrel has been for us, we will be very lucky to keep hold of him.

With the season effectively over its time for a change - let Mr Horne return to Hull and lets get someone else in to try to finish the season with some good solid performances and hopefully build for next year.

Re: Rochdale v Doncaster Sunday 15/8/2021 3pm : Wed Aug 18, 2021 9:07 pm  

Its so sad that long standing supporters are feeling the way they are, without supporters the game wont exist. I can though understand the sentiments.

Re: Rochdale v Doncaster Sunday 15/8/2021 3pm : Thu Aug 19, 2021 6:06 am  

I just have to say my piece.
Yes, I can acknowledge the frustration of us fans for the embarrassing defeats we’ve all experienced just lately. And whilst Carl Hall can try and patch us fans back up with a video.. but did it really need to come to that? The communication on Doncaster’s behalf through social media regarding player injuries/ fitness and anything regards Donny is lifeless. Other teams within this league communicate with their fans regardless if it’s to share inside knowledge I.e injuries for other teams info.

Anyway…
Because I say what I have to say, let me start by saying I appreciate every single player that puts on that shirt week in week out. As I know first hand how difficult it is at times to balance the lifestyle of a semi pro rugby player having to go to work then training not getting home till silly o’clock’s at night. Then not only that having to balance between family time to. It’s difficult to say the least. But the frustrating part for me is knowing them lads against west Wales was short changed.

I doubt Doncaster as a club will take the blame, instead the players will! They were late to the ground, leaving them less time to warm up. Then for those who had made the trip up there would have seen ten minutes into the game one of our key players got brought off Matt Beharell, why? He wasn’t injured?! You could see his frustration as to why he’d been brought off, when we wasn’t sitting comfortably within the score. Perhaps it would of been much more understanding if we were sitting comfortably in the score, and Horne perhaps wanted to trial the plays / team out for the following week with Matt having a 1 match ban. But to bring trialist into the squad last minute to due to the lack of numbers, and just because they’re from Leeds and Cas you want to take off one of our own for the likes of those? This is when we lose players! With stupid decisions made like this. Then to put Matt back on towards the end when Dons was getting back into the game and scoring again. But it was to little to late!

The defeat really was nothing short of embarrassing! But no fault of the players and I stick by that. The lads had there grub then back on the coach home, may I add with no STOP on the way home for the lads. Because the back room staff wouldn’t allow the coach to stop because of the defeat. Whilst the back room staff thought it would be highly amusing to have a drink or two on the way home like they’d won?! - I see that as nothing but disrespectful on so many levels! And I question the morals of the coaching staff.

Id be very surprised if come the end of the season we have kept any of our decent players left. It seems aswell that if your face doesn’t fit with the likes of Horne you don’t get int he starting 18. It’s been said Horne has his favourites, hence why we lost players mid way through the season. Then when covid hit us and injuries came in one of those players wanted to come back but Horne turned him down, sorry but was we in the right mind to turn down players when we need as many as possible who know the plays / moves already. Rather then having to bring in others from else where and try and make them gel as a team within a week. His choices baffle me!!

We’ve not once strengthened the team through this season like other teams who are pushing promotion have! You can’t expect to go all season with the team that we have when injuries / covid you HAVE to look else were too. I think the signing of Ben at fullback is a great signing but once again that’s short lived and only till the end of the season. But that allows Johnston to back into the halves with Matt. As they were just beginning to flow properly then it got ruined with the lack of players in positions.

The beginning of the season Horne had the opportunity to sign some very good players but once again Doncaster as a whole for some unknown reason didn’t get back in touch with them or left it to late for them players to sign else where. And some being in championship!! Once again this questions my thoughts on the back of house members and there vision for Doncaster as a whole to push for promotion.

We lack forwards we have Peltier who in my eyes would be in my starting 18 man squad week in week out. We always need to start by tiring the opposition out and for his size and the damage he does we need more players like him. Need big horrible things what are going to be nasty and be a battering ram. The team is what it seems is nothing but to soft and don’t seem to get stuck in enough when it comes to top teams within this league. I fear for the Barrow game I really do! But I’m hoping the lads come out all fired up because doesn’t seem like the coaching staff have it within them. Somethings clearly disconnecting between the two.

The passion and pride that some of the players have is enough to carry the team and get them through the nitty gritty games. You see that just through Matt when he’s trying to rally up the fans at home games! And that’s the type of passion Doncaster need from everybody right now more than ever!!!! Rant over

Re: Rochdale v Doncaster Sunday 15/8/2021 3pm : Thu Aug 19, 2021 9:38 am  

Dons4Life wrote:

I just have to say my piece.
Yes, I can acknowledge the frustration of us fans for the embarrassing defeats we’ve all experienced just lately. And whilst Carl Hall can try and patch us fans back up with a video.. but did it really need to come to that? The communication on Doncaster’s behalf through social media regarding player injuries/ fitness and anything regards Donny is lifeless. Other teams within this league communicate with their fans regardless if it’s to share inside knowledge I.e injuries for other teams info.

Anyway…
Because I say what I have to say, let me start by saying I appreciate every single player that puts on that shirt week in week out. As I know first hand how difficult it is at times to balance the lifestyle of a semi pro rugby player having to go to work then training not getting home till silly o’clock’s at night. Then not only that having to balance between family time to. It’s difficult to say the least. But the frustrating part for me is knowing them lads against west Wales was short changed.

I doubt Doncaster as a club will take the blame, instead the players will! They were late to the ground, leaving them less time to warm up. Then for those who had made the trip up there would have seen ten minutes into the game one of our key players got brought off Matt Beharell, why? He wasn’t injured?! You could see his frustration as to why he’d been brought off, when we wasn’t sitting comfortably within the score. Perhaps it would of been much more understanding if we were sitting comfortably in the score, and Horne perhaps wanted to trial the plays / team out for the following week with Matt having a 1 match ban. But to bring trialist into the squad last minute to due to the lack of numbers, and just because they’re from Leeds and Cas you want to take off one of our own for the likes of those? This is when we lose players! With stupid decisions made like this. Then to put Matt back on towards the end when Dons was getting back into the game and scoring again. But it was to little to late!

The defeat really was nothing short of embarrassing! But no fault of the players and I stick by that. The lads had there grub then back on the coach home, may I add with no STOP on the way home for the lads. Because the back room staff wouldn’t allow the coach to stop because of the defeat. Whilst the back room staff thought it would be highly amusing to have a drink or two on the way home like they’d won?! - I see that as nothing but disrespectful on so many levels! And I question the morals of the coaching staff.

Id be very surprised if come the end of the season we have kept any of our decent players left. It seems aswell that if your face doesn’t fit with the likes of Horne you don’t get int he starting 18. It’s been said Horne has his favourites, hence why we lost players mid way through the season. Then when covid hit us and injuries came in one of those players wanted to come back but Horne turned him down, sorry but was we in the right mind to turn down players when we need as many as possible who know the plays / moves already. Rather then having to bring in others from else where and try and make them gel as a team within a week. His choices baffle me!!

We’ve not once strengthened the team through this season like other teams who are pushing promotion have! You can’t expect to go all season with the team that we have when injuries / covid you HAVE to look else were too. I think the signing of Ben at fullback is a great signing but once again that’s short lived and only till the end of the season. But that allows Johnston to back into the halves with Matt. As they were just beginning to flow properly then it got ruined with the lack of players in positions.

The beginning of the season Horne had the opportunity to sign some very good players but once again Doncaster as a whole for some unknown reason didn’t get back in touch with them or left it to late for them players to sign else where. And some being in championship!! Once again this questions my thoughts on the back of house members and there vision for Doncaster as a whole to push for promotion.

We lack forwards we have Peltier who in my eyes would be in my starting 18 man squad week in week out. We always need to start by tiring the opposition out and for his size and the damage he does we need more players like him. Need big horrible things what are going to be nasty and be a battering ram. The team is what it seems is nothing but to soft and don’t seem to get stuck in enough when it comes to top teams within this league. I fear for the Barrow game I really do! But I’m hoping the lads come out all fired up because doesn’t seem like the coaching staff have it within them. Somethings clearly disconnecting between the two.

The passion and pride that some of the players have is enough to carry the team and get them through the nitty gritty games. You see that just through Matt when he’s trying to rally up the fans at home games! And that’s the type of passion Doncaster need from everybody right now more than ever!!!! Rant over

To go into such detail then you must be one of the playing staff or have close links to them, otherwise how would you know MB was not injured.
Also you state we lost the game ,the last time i was at school when each team have the same number of points the game is a draw.

Re: Rochdale v Doncaster Sunday 15/8/2021 3pm : Thu Aug 19, 2021 12:20 pm  

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Keith Lard's Dog wrote:

To go into such detail then you must be one of the playing staff or have close links to them, otherwise how would you know MB was not injured.
Also you state we lost the game ,the last time i was at school when each team have the same number of points the game is a draw.

Also "starting 18"?

Re: Rochdale v Doncaster Sunday 15/8/2021 3pm : Thu Aug 19, 2021 12:32 pm  

Rob Nash wrote:

[code][/code]Also "starting 18"?

I think 18 is reference to the extra player, incase of injuries or last minute pullouts.

This has to be a squad member in my eyes as who else would know this information.

Re: Rochdale v Doncaster Sunday 15/8/2021 3pm : Thu Aug 19, 2021 1:10 pm  

I can't see them doing the home return journey without at the very least one toilet break.
If the coach had only one driver on board I think the maximum amount of time he can drive without a break is four & half hours

Re: Rochdale v Doncaster Sunday 15/8/2021 3pm : Thu Aug 19, 2021 1:34 pm  

Skeptical says I. The word defeat appears once to often for my liking.