Re: lads from last year : Tue Mar 23, 2010 8:53 am  

chunkster wrote:

I agree that there are and have been good players from Donny,but the club always seems to overlook local talent(which would surely increase the gate) to players of lesser ability from Cas, Wakey, Hull and Leeds.Thats always been the case with the Dons, the only time we had a squad of local lads was when the club changed to the Dragons and local players like myself,Tony Chappel ,Howard Roberts,Ernie Lake,Ian Fletcher,Ian Stewart and others all turned out to play for our home town club,not for the money but for the pride of representing your home town.I will never forget playing that first game at Belle Vue against Hull KR,sitting in the changing rooms under the main stand ,while 1000 Dons fans stamped and cheered before the start of the game,all the lads that played that day will tell you that the hairs on the back of your neck stood up and some were close to tears.The club has made the mistake of overlooking local lads or using them and then letting them go,that is why we cannot get local lads to the club.However i will do all i can to scout local lads for the club as when i was coaching the scholarship we had a number of good quility players who with the right coaching could have formed the basis of a team for the future,but that has been disbanded due to cash ,but when only one coach out of five was being paid ,then you have to question the logic.We need to get behind the lads tomorrow ,as i am sure a few of the lads playing have a point to prove.

That is all too true.

I've seen a fair few players in my wanderings with Scunthorpe who would be more than capable of playing at a higher level, it just begs to ask, would the club take the risk on young, South Yorkshire based players with an excess of talent on the recommendation of another club?

Re: lads from last year : Tue Mar 23, 2010 1:14 pm  

I'm totally 100% behind the settled team idea, for the risk of broken record syndrome its what has been absent for the past few years. Its been chop and change due to the circumstances that have been brought about by running instead of walking. Get the team settled, and the finances settled( I believe they are) and hopefully the blooding of young local talent will come but not just for the sake of it. I want to turn up and know the players out on the park, I want to take pride in their performance week in week out. It is a ridiculous scenario having a different team every couple of months and not one that helps to get the disillusioned back in the seats.

Re: lads from last year : Tue Mar 23, 2010 3:13 pm  

Moonlight wrote:

I'm totally 100% behind the settled team idea, for the risk of broken record syndrome its what has been absent for the past few years. Its been chop and change due to the circumstances that have been brought about by running instead of walking. Get the team settled, and the finances settled( I believe they are) and hopefully the blooding of young local talent will come but not just for the sake of it. I want to turn up and know the players out on the park, I want to take pride in their performance week in week out. It is a ridiculous scenario having a different team every couple of months and not one that helps to get the disillusioned back in the seats.

Spot On Al.

Re: lads from last year : Tue Mar 23, 2010 5:27 pm  

chunkster wrote:

I agree that there are and have been good players from Donny,but the club always seems to overlook local talent(which would surely increase the gate) to players of lesser ability from Cas, Wakey, Hull and Leeds.Thats always been the case with the Dons, the only time we had a squad of local lads was when the club changed to the Dragons and local players like myself,Tony Chappel ,Howard Roberts,Ernie Lake,Ian Fletcher,Ian Stewart and others all turned out to play for our home town club,not for the money but for the pride of representing your home town.I will never forget playing that first game at Belle Vue against Hull KR,sitting in the changing rooms under the main stand ,while 1000 Dons fans stamped and cheered before the start of the game,all the lads that played that day will tell you that the hairs on the back of your neck stood up and some were close to tears.The club has made the mistake of overlooking local lads or using them and then letting them go,that is why we cannot get local lads to the club.However i will do all i can to scout local lads for the club as when i was coaching the scholarship we had a number of good quility players who with the right coaching could have formed the basis of a team for the future,but that has been disbanded due to cash ,but when only one coach out of five was being paid ,then you have to question the logic.We need to get behind the lads tomorrow ,as i am sure a few of the lads playing have a point to prove.

How about the local lads who played for the Dons in the 1987-89 season
Neil Turner
Mark Roache
Audley Pennant
Milton Pennant
Lol Freeman
Kevin Parkhouse
Mark Gibbon
Alan Carr
Ian Barratt

Re: lads from last year : Tue Mar 23, 2010 6:02 pm  

chunkster wrote:

I agree that there are and have been good players from Donny,but the club always seems to overlook local talent(which would surely increase the gate) to players of lesser ability from Cas, Wakey, Hull and Leeds.Thats always been the case with the Dons, the only time we had a squad of local lads was when the club changed to the Dragons and local players like myself,Tony Chappel ,Howard Roberts,Ernie Lake,Ian Fletcher,Ian Stewart and others all turned out to play for our home town club,not for the money but for the pride of representing your home town.I will never forget playing that first game at Belle Vue against Hull KR,sitting in the changing rooms under the main stand ,while 1000 Dons fans stamped and cheered before the start of the game,all the lads that played that day will tell you that the hairs on the back of your neck stood up and some were close to tears.The club has made the mistake of overlooking local lads or using them and then letting them go,that is why we cannot get local lads to the club.However i will do all i can to scout local lads for the club as when i was coaching the scholarship we had a number of good quility players who with the right coaching could have formed the basis of a team for the future,but that has been disbanded due to cash ,but when only one coach out of five was being paid ,then you have to question the logic.We need to get behind the lads tomorrow ,as i am sure a few of the lads playing have a point to prove.

That was the point I made earlier in the thread. IMHO there are one or two local lads who could quite possibly make the step up, but they are overlooked in favour of other players from the so called 'hot beds' who, looking at results, aren't up to the job.
At least give one or two of them a chance, and if they dont cut it at least you've tried.

Re: lads from last year : Tue Mar 23, 2010 8:08 pm  

Gargoyle wrote:

That was the point I made earlier in the thread. IMHO there are one or two local lads who could quite possibly make the step up, but they are overlooked in favour of other players from the so called 'hot beds' who, looking at results, aren't up to the job.
At least give one or two of them a chance, and if they dont cut it at least you've tried.

Count me out, Ive seen the consultent today and has said my knees are like a Lunar Landscape from the MRI scans Ive just had.

Re: lads from last year : Tue Mar 23, 2010 8:33 pm  

Keep having a paddle in the sea Dave!

Re: lads from last year : Wed Mar 24, 2010 8:43 am  

Yes Geoff we did have some great local players as you mentioned ,but look how many clubs we had back then around the villages,Bentley,Askern,Rossington,Armthorpe,ICI,Moorends,Goldthorpe,Skellow and many be a few more,now we have two, Bentley and Toll Bar ,if we are to progress you need players to perform at a higher level,the step up from amateur is hard as the game is much faster,even at the lower levels.Bentley and Toll Bar should join forces and try to play in the conference instead of struggleing on season to season playing in Yorkshire one and two ,then maybe we can get back to the days of having a team made up of local boys.Toll Bar have some great facilities and good youth development,while Bentley have players with more experience of playing semi pro , but this will never happen as both clubs want to keep their identity. Surely it would benefit both the clubs and the Dons,and this could give local players something to aspire too,using this as a Dons feeder club.

Re: lads from last year : Wed Mar 24, 2010 9:30 am  

chunkster wrote:

Yes Geoff we did have some great local players as you mentioned ,but look how many clubs we had back then around the villages,Bentley,Askern,Rossington,Armthorpe,ICI,Moorends,Goldthorpe,Skellow and many be a few more,now we have two, Bentley and Toll Bar ,if we are to progress you need players to perform at a higher level,the step up from amateur is hard as the game is much faster,even at the lower levels.Bentley and Toll Bar should join forces and try to play in the conference instead of struggleing on season to season playing in Yorkshire one and two ,then maybe we can get back to the days of having a team made up of local boys.Toll Bar have some great facilities and good youth development,while Bentley have players with more experience of playing semi pro , but this will never happen as both clubs want to keep their identity. Surely it would benefit both the clubs and the Dons,and this could give local players something to aspire too,using this as a Dons feeder club.

We don't like mergers on here chunkster (it's a touchy subject).
You just said that we had a better pool to pick from when we had more local clubs like Askern, Rosso etc ....so why would we want to make it fewer.
Besides .....are we just giving the Marauders youngsters up to Hull etc..what about them?

Re: lads from last year : Wed Mar 24, 2010 9:34 am  

chunkster wrote:

Yes Geoff we did have some great local players as you mentioned ,but look how many clubs we had back then around the villages,Bentley,Askern,Rossington,Armthorpe,ICI,Moorends,Goldthorpe,Skellow and many be a few more,now we have two, Bentley and Toll Bar ,if we are to progress you need players to perform at a higher level,the step up from amateur is hard as the game is much faster,even at the lower levels.Bentley and Toll Bar should join forces and try to play in the conference instead of struggleing on season to season playing in Yorkshire one and two ,then maybe we can get back to the days of having a team made up of local boys.Toll Bar have some great facilities and good youth development,while Bentley have players with more experience of playing semi pro , but this will never happen as both clubs want to keep their identity. Surely it would benefit both the clubs and the Dons,and this could give local players something to aspire too,using this as a Dons feeder club.

There are still clubs at Moorends and Goldthorpe, although Moorends now focus on summer rugby only, and Goldthorpe [now Dearne Valley] are in the Pennine League.