Re: 2016 V's 2017 : Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:22 pm  

craig hkr wrote:

On paper Kelly and campese were the best pairing in the league . Unfortunately they rarely played together. Ellis and kebabdul are steady enough.but would they get a gig together in super league? More than adequate for league campaign but come middle8s and probably mpg I think not enough to win us that game..hope to be proven wrong

I think Ellis and Abdul will be fine, Ellis is a lower end SL standard and Abdul has the potential to be a top SL player, stronger than Widnes and Leigh's halfs IMO. Think you might lack a cutting edge in your centres and wingers, but I guess that depends on how your. Unknown Aussies go.

Re: 2016 V's 2017 : Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:41 pm  

I'm not convinced by Abdul in half's at all.certainly not at super league level. (If we get back).he's a 13.we have plenty back rowers and about 5 full backs.id rather he get experience elsewhere and have a quality half steering us round.happy to be proved wrong

Re: 2016 V's 2017 : Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:56 pm  

craig hkr wrote:

I'm not convinced by Abdul in half's at all.certainly not at super league level. (If we get back).he's a 13.we have plenty back rowers and about 5 full backs.id rather he get experience elsewhere and have a quality half steering us round.happy to be proved wrong

I think Abdul is ready to step up to be a main half and Ellis has been around long enough and is experienced Dobson was only 19 when he led Wigan to safety

Re: 2016 V's 2017 : Sat Jan 14, 2017 10:10 pm  

craig hkr wrote:

I'm not convinced by Abdul in half's at all.certainly not at super league level. (If we get back).he's a 13.we have plenty back rowers and about 5 full backs.id rather he get experience elsewhere and have a quality half steering us round.happy to be proved wrong

Simalar to Cooke IMO, great hands, but better running game, kicking needs work.

Re: 2016 V's 2017 : Sat Jan 14, 2017 10:40 pm  

fun time frankie wrote:

I think Abdul is ready to step up to be a main half and Ellis has been around long enough and is experienced Dobson was only 19 when he led Wigan to safety

Valid points.was this deal done before Sheens arrived?

Re: 2016 V's 2017 : Sat Jan 14, 2017 11:11 pm  

craig hkr wrote:

Valid points.was this deal done before Sheens arrived?

I know Sheens wanted both Abdul and Ellis so he must have seen something in them I think Abdul spat his dummy out last season I think he thought he would be playing a lot more than he did instead he was shipped off to Fev

Re: 2016 V's 2017 : Sun Jan 15, 2017 8:23 am  

What if we make it back up which I hope we do first attempt, we will then need to look for a new halve back pairing due to both Ellis/Abdul on loan spells with us and wanted back at their parent clubs end of season

Re: 2016 V's 2017 : Sun Jan 15, 2017 8:55 am  

rebelrobin wrote:

What if we make it back up which I hope we do first attempt, we will then need to look for a new halve back pairing due to both Ellis/Abdul on loan spells with us and wanted back at their parent clubs end of season

I have faith Tim will have a plan....

Re: 2016 V's 2017 : Sun Jan 15, 2017 9:25 am  

Dave K. wrote:

I think Ellis and Abdul will be fine, Ellis is a lower end SL standard and Abdul has the potential to be a top SL player, stronger than Widnes and Leigh's halfs IMO. Think you might lack a cutting edge in your centres and wingers, but I guess that depends on how your. Unknown Aussies go.

There is a reason they are both in the championship, KR are paying Ellis a massive wedge for a 1 year loan deal after Stone said he was free to go, Abdull was on loan at Fev and Ridyard schooled him in every aspect.

The KR team looks very competitive but I don't think Abdull & Ellis are anywhere near Mellor, Drinkwater, Ridyard, Hampshire or Reynolds.

Leigh were offered Ellis & turned him down.

Re: 2016 V's 2017 : Sun Jan 15, 2017 9:49 am  

I forgot we have other options at hb with Blair/Quinlan. Then moss at fb. Just wondered when Kr go to Tenerife warm weather training is it after Leeds game. Cos I have a feeling shillington maybe there with them by then