Re: Lead Balloon... : Sun Jul 16, 2017 7:36 pm  

I'm as guilty of it as any but maybe we are over reacting to a home loss?They had to win and I'm not convinced our lads gave today's game the respect it was due,or maybe they did? Heffernan Minns Carney Greenwood all due back improves us .Abdull is an upgrade on Addy but I'd still like a proper organising half .deadline soon so will be interesting to see if these rumours of 2 or 3 upgrades are true.Would have thought they should be here by now though?

Re: Lead Balloon... : Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:20 pm  

Zook Ema's Hose wrote:

As is to be expected with 2-3 bigger name players announced this week and much of the squad out of contract some players will be unhappy - let's face it Masoe's fee per game will be more than most of the squad get in a three months but you get what you pay for. Sheens simply needs to manage the fact that average players that have done a job at this level so far have to be sidelined for the final games. Difficult but we need to ruthless. Eggs and omelettes. A side with Carney, Masoe, Lunt, Quinlan and co plus further additions will be too much for both Leigh and Widnes.

3 big names this week? Impressive. i presume 2 must be British?

Re: Lead Balloon... : Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:21 pm  

redmuzza wrote:

Take the Leg is right unfortunately, we have got away with it this season because it is a poor quality league. Did,nt think at the start of the season i would be saying we missed Abdull...today we did, big time. No game management, we gave them 18pts. What the fku was Butler Fleming thinking, trying to offload in a gang tackle on his own line, cost us a win at fev with his loose carry out of defence. Atkins is the first specialist half we have had this season. I would try him alongside Quinlan and have Moss at fullback, Abdull at loose...imo. Oh to have Albert back...Oh hang on a minute, maybe not.

Abdul will get mullered at 13 against SL opposition

Re: Lead Balloon... : Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:41 pm  

Jake the Peg wrote:

Abdul will get mullered at 13 against SL opposition

I felt that way about him in half's but not 13. I don't think you even believe what you wrote there? It's the bottom 4 of superleague and he has already proved he can operate at that level in seasons past

Re: Lead Balloon... : Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:57 pm  

craig hkr wrote:

I felt that way about him in half's but not 13. I don't think you even believe what you wrote there? It's the bottom 4 of superleague and he has already proved he can operate at that level in seasons past

I mean he isn't physically up to playing as a middle against SL opposition. He'll get spotted in defence constantly. We're playing sika manu as 13 and he gets battered

Re: Lead Balloon... : Sun Jul 16, 2017 9:14 pm  

When I've watched Manu iv not seen him battered ever.one tough hombre as Stevo would say.Oloughlin plays 13 whilst never at 100 percent.Think nowadays the fashion is to play an extra prop at 13.you had a ball playing 13 in Westy and he wasn't in long term plan that is probably why Abdull shipped out cos Radford certainly didn't see him as a superleague halfback

Re: Lead Balloon... : Sun Jul 16, 2017 9:21 pm  

sheens must give atkins a go agaimst Halifax he may be the answer for an astute kicking game ,and creativity, minns, Heffernan, greenwood, carney, clark plus a couple of quality additions, you have suddenly got a different outlook on things.. hopefully,, want Halifax through but think we will win on sunday

Re: Lead Balloon... : Sun Jul 16, 2017 9:23 pm  

craig hkr wrote:

When I've watched Manu iv not seen him battered ever.one tough hombre as Stevo would say.Oloughlin plays 13 whilst never at 100 percent.Think nowadays the fashion is to play an extra prop at 13.you had a ball playing 13 in Westy and he wasn't in long term plan that is probably why Abdull shipped out cos Radford certainly didn't see him as a superleague halfback

Westerman is a big bloke though and does a big shift in defence. abdul just isn't physically up to it so you'd be putting extra pressure on the other forwards

Re: Lead Balloon... : Sun Jul 16, 2017 9:23 pm  

Jake the Peg wrote:

I mean he isn't physically up to playing as a middle against SL opposition. He'll get spotted in defence constantly. We're playing sika manu as 13 and he gets battered

Then your defensive patterns (and I don't mean Hull's I mean whichever team) need to reflect what players you're playing in what positions.

It could warrant a whole new thread on the players that Rover's have on their books (and I might start it but I'm a bit busy) about who should be playing where, but there is real fact that we have a massive amount of players but do we have real quality?

And that's down to Sheens.

Re: Lead Balloon... : Sun Jul 16, 2017 9:31 pm  

Journalist John Davidson says we have 3 or 4 still to sign for the Middle 8s and plenty of cap spare. People should take time to digest these signings and consider the fact we have won this competition at a canter with a far weaker squad than will be fielded when it matters.