Re: Sheens in! : Tue May 29, 2018 10:27 am  

des lawson wrote:

Well done tim,finally managed to put somebody with a bit of pace at half back,interesting our top try scorers this season shaw 6,minns 4,quinlan4,carney 3,moss3.Am i missing something shaw played 14,quinlan 13,carney 13,moss 1.one.!!!
The top average gain per carry in superleague is 11 metres,moss averages 10.76 per carry the 2nd best in the league.Am i missing something.???
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Yes. Moss has played one game albeit a try scoring one. I'm sure TS has his reasons why Moss isn't in the starting line up but to start quoting stats after 1 game is a bit silly. Maybe TS sees other deficiencies in his game that we don't.

Re: Sheens in! : Tue May 29, 2018 12:14 pm  

Well iam sure we all see deficiencies in shaws game,very good goal kicker wakey ran riot on his wing in both matches as well as most other teams we have played.Do you think shaw is a better tackler than moss who played well at full back during quinlans abscence last year and shaw has only scored 3 more tries in 13 more matches.?
Also do you not think the difference in the win against wigan was helped big style by having a half back with pace rather than lee,who has played well,but is void of any pace or threat in the halves,atkins also added pace and a threat from hooker,something we havent had since lunt got injured.

Re: Sheens in! : Tue May 29, 2018 12:16 pm  

I understand the moss sentiments, and for me he should of played friday. However, you can not argue with what young Wallis has produced over these two games.

For me, Moss just doesn;t make enough yards on returns. And with quinlan at the back who is not going to get dropped rightly so, i don't think TS wants two weak returns if possible ( even more so when shaw's playing)

With carney out, my two wingers would be

Oakes
Shaw

In a couple of years a back 3 of Oakes, Wallis, Dagger will look pretty exciting

Re: Sheens in! : Tue May 29, 2018 12:25 pm  

Moss came on for the final 15 minutes at Wakefield and scored a try. He then played a full game against Hull and scored 3 tries.

So Moss has scored 4 tries and is second in our try scoring list having played one game plus 15 minutes.

Re: Sheens in! : Tue May 29, 2018 2:23 pm  

His Bobness wrote:

Moss came on for the final 15 minutes at Wakefield and scored a try. He then played a full game against Hull and scored 3 tries.

So Moss has scored 4 tries and is second in our try scoring list having played one game plus 15 minutes.

I'd forgotten about the wakey match,obviously 4 tries in 95 mins isnt enough bearing in mind what a top of the table team we are,Oh wait a minute !!!!!

Re: Sheens in! : Tue May 29, 2018 2:27 pm  

mean_machine wrote:

I understand the moss sentiments, and for me he should of played friday. However, you can not argue with what young Wallis has produced over these two games.

For me, Moss just doesn;t make enough yards on returns. And with quinlan at the back who is not going to get dropped rightly so, i don't think TS wants two weak returns if possible ( even more so when shaw's playing)

With carney out, my two wingers would be

Oakes
Shaw

In a couple of years a back 3 of Oakes, Wallis, Dagger will look pretty exciting

Agree about the youngsters,but why would you prefer somebody who has scored 6 tries in 14 matches over a player who has scored 4 tries in 1 match and 15 minutes and 7 tries in one game for york,I know its lower level,but what does he have to do ??.Moss has the 2nd highest making ground per carry in superleague.11.76 metres per carry.

Re: Sheens in! : Tue May 29, 2018 3:52 pm  

I would put Moss in front of Shaw but not Carney

Re: Sheens in! : Tue May 29, 2018 6:43 pm  

des lawson wrote:

Agree about the youngsters,but why would you prefer somebody who has scored 6 tries in 14 matches over a player who has scored 4 tries in 1 match and 15 minutes and 7 tries in one game for york,I know its lower level,but what does he have to do ??.Moss has the 2nd highest making ground per carry in superleague.11.76 metres per carry.

Again this means nothing in the context that he has played 1 game. You can bang the same drum over and over again but it wont force TS to pick him or make your argument anymore or less valid.

Re: Sheens in! : Wed May 30, 2018 8:24 am  

IMO i dont think TS had any intention of playing Moss this season hence letting him get cup tied at york. Injuries forced his hand though. It was a strange one pre season when Sheens backtracked on his decision to release him only to decide to hang onto him then ship him off to York.

Re: Sheens in! : Wed May 30, 2018 9:11 am  

fun time frankie wrote:

I would put Moss in front of Shaw but not Carney

Agree 100%,my point exactly.