Re: Heff : Sun Jul 01, 2018 3:56 pm  

REDEOD wrote:

You are correct. I assumed that scrum caps were intended to protect from concussions or similar, however I’ve just read they’re for protection against cauliflower ear.
There is also an argument against enhanced head protection akin to American football as it may be attributable to further or worse head injuries.

Apologies I misunderstood their use.

However, they do seem to be used as a token gesture when someone has suffered head injuries

Re: Heff : Sun Jul 01, 2018 6:12 pm  

Heff was at the club family day at CP today representing the club well as he always does.

He is a very talented player, well thought of at the club and contracted for next year. He will be given every chance to resume his career and will not be pushed into retirement unless and until advised to do so by the experts.

Re: Heff : Sun Jul 01, 2018 6:45 pm  

Potentially. VaiVai and Wallis and Heffernan and Oakes. as our two wing partnerships

Re: Heff : Sun Jul 01, 2018 7:52 pm  

[quote="EastHullUTR"]Potentially. VaiVai and Wallis and Heffernan and Oakes. as our two wing partnerships[/quote]




Carney and Shaw might have something to say about that

Re: Heff : Sun Jul 01, 2018 7:55 pm  

EastHullUTR wrote:

Potentially. VaiVai and Wallis and Heffernan and Oakes. as our two wing partnerships

Vaivai & Heffernan are both top quality centres. Contrasting styles which is good.

Wallis & Oakes for sure still in the 'potential' bracket. Despite his absolute shocker at Castleford I rate Wallis the better prospect. He is the bigger, stronger and faster of the two he is according to Sheens easily the fastest player at the club. His gaffes at Castleford will be eliminated with experience.

Obviously there is a cloud hanging over Heff but no doubts about his ability.

Let's not dismiss Ryan Shaw either. When he & Wallis switched wings at Cas the constant danger on our right edge was largely eliminated. Shaw can catch a high ball, is a great finisher and has kicked 10/10 goals from all angles in the last 2 games. I expect Wallis & Oakes will be competing for the other wing next season.

Re: Heff : Mon Jul 02, 2018 12:14 am  

I wouldn’t say Wallis was ‘easily’ the fastest at the club, over 100m I would back Shaw against most. He may be a slow starter, but when he gets a gallop on he’s not easily caught.

Re: Heff : Mon Jul 02, 2018 7:05 am  

REDEOD wrote:

You are correct. I assumed that scrum caps were intended to protect from concussions or similar, however I’ve just read they’re for protection against cauliflower ear.
There is also an argument against enhanced head protection akin to American football as it may be attributable to further or worse head injuries.

Apologies I misunderstood their use.

Helmets are the big problem in NFL, they offer protection from fractured skulls and facial breaks but they increase impact and the ability to withstand that impact. This allows the brain to take more rattling which then increases the long term damage caused by repeated shocks.

I fear for Heff because you can guarantee he will get another head impact when he comes back, is it worth the risk when you look at the long term effects even on footballers from heading a ball, that Alan Shearer documentary must have scared a lot of rugby players to death.

Re: Heff : Mon Jul 02, 2018 8:05 am  

moxi1 wrote:

I wouldn’t say Wallis was ‘easily’ the fastest at the club, over 100m I would back Shaw against most. He may be a slow starter, but when he gets a gallop on he’s not easily caught.

Wallis can seriously get going, looking forward to seeing him in clear space

Re: Heff : Mon Jul 02, 2018 9:12 am  

EastHullUTR wrote:

Wallis can seriously get going, looking forward to seeing him in clear space

plenty of it in the championship

Re: Heff : Mon Jul 02, 2018 11:49 am  

moxi1 wrote:

I wouldn’t say Wallis was ‘easily’ the fastest at the club, over 100m I would back Shaw against most. He may be a slow starter, but when he gets a gallop on he’s not easily caught.

Just quoting Tim Sheens who said Wallis is seriously quick easily the fastest player at the club.