Re: Three scores up and... : Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:07 pm  

On the one hand Rovers could so easily have won - if the Tomkins try had been allowed (and Joel is adamant it should have been) it would have been all over at 28-14 yet a minute later it was 22-18.

Then after repelling some very good Salford play with resolute defence we give away the softest of soft tries to go behind and lose. Very frustrating and annoying.

On the other hand Salford were the better team for the majority of the game and deserved to win. Rovers seemed to have a strategy of hanging on to the 22-8 half time lead but handing over the initiative like that is asking for trouble and trouble eventually came.

For me the warning signs were there when we were so pleased with ourselves for losing 28-14 at Warrington. At half time today at 22-8 I said that I just hope we aren't too pleased with ourselves. We probably were not , we didn't give in by any means but we did try to shut up shop and hang on. It might have worked but it didn't.

I hope very sincerely I will be proved wrong but I see us in the bottom 4 again this season, with away games at Cas & Wakey next up we are looking at a likely 2/6.

Re: Three scores up and... : Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:13 pm  

We were totally dominated in the second half another try after half time would have closed the match out but you could just see what was going to happen

Re: Three scores up and... : Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:25 pm  

Not seen the stats but it feels like we had enough chances to score fair few more points. Hooker and Halves ain't firing and mickey poor game management in the 2nd half let Lui and Hastings run riot again. If I was Sheens I'd be getting a new hooker in this week as a priority and then thinking very hard about dropping McGuire for Atkin. Atkin only played few minutes and was a waste of an interchange when Jewitt may have helped us front up a bit more? Can't rely on Garbutt doing it on his own every week. The whole lot of them need a rocket up them.

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Re: Three scores up and... : Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:35 pm  

FWIW, having watched it on on Hull KR tv, I don’t think many neutrals will have much pity regarding Tomkins disallowed/unawarded try.

I remember Liam Watts getting one vaguely similar for us after a video review a few years ago. But at full speed it looks like a knock on. If he was grounding a kick, he might have been in with a better shout.

Re: Three scores up and... : Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:52 pm  

I'm surprised and disappointed we bottled it but in truth we had the game sewn up and just took our foot off the gas. I'm happy with the forwards and we will only improve when Jewitt returns. Mulhern, Garbutt, Masoe and Jewitt are a top half set of props without a doubt. Main worries are hooker. Especially next week as McShane is quality. It's also looking a year too long for Mcguire but I think he will come good and next week we should be bossing their halves because of the experience and quality advantage we have. I actually feel confident going into the Cas game. Today they fielded Jordan Rankin, Egodo, and Claire - hardly world beaters. We should have a good idea regards Top 5 aspirations after the next couple of rounds.

Re: Three scores up and... : Sat Feb 23, 2019 10:18 pm  

Mild Rover wrote:

FWIW, having watched it on on Hull KR tv, I don’t think many neutrals will have much pity regarding Tomkins disallowed/unawarded try.

I remember Liam Watts getting one vaguely similar for after a video review a few years ago. But at full speed it looks like a knock on. If he was grounding a kick, he might have been in with a better shout.

The still pictures do prove pretty conclusively that it was a try I think if it had been on SKY with all the technology it would have been given.

It wasn't and Salford were good value overall.

Re: Three scores up and... : Sun Feb 24, 2019 1:14 pm  

We are just a very dumb team. Maguire needs to sit on the sidelines until called upon this season now. Atkin to the halves instead. But while we are at it, a rocket up Drinkwaters arris would do.
Our direction and descision making is amateur at best from the halves. Maguire has gone a season too long. That break away from Addy in the second half used to be bread a butter for Mags to follow up on a players shoulder,but whether he’s got the desire or the speed anymore that’s anyone’s guess. What is the point to carry on with Maguire anyway when it’s his last season and we’ve a perfectly good England knights up and coming halve being d1cked around on the bench.
We all could see that Dagger should of been full back from the off and now fans are asking at atkin re-enstated, I hope Sheens sees sense and changes things around.
Btw, how bad was Kienhorst yesterday!

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Re: Three scores up and... : Sun Feb 24, 2019 1:42 pm  

Hessle rover wrote:

We are just a very dumb team. Maguire needs to sit on the sidelines until called upon this season now. Atkin to the halves instead. But while we are at it, a rocket up Drinkwaters arris would do.
Our direction and descision making is amateur at best from the halves. Maguire has gone a season too long. That break away from Addy in the second half used to be bread a butter for Mags to follow up on a players shoulder,but whether he’s got the desire or the speed anymore that’s anyone’s guess. What is the point to carry on with Maguire anyway when it’s his last season and we’ve a perfectly good England knights up and coming halve being d1cked around on the bench.
We all could see that Dagger should of been full back from the off and now fans are asking at atkin re-enstated, I hope Sheens sees sense and changes things around.
Btw, how bad was Kienhorst yesterday!

Tbf, McGuire agreed to come to us when we were a Championship team and play at that level if needs be. I’m sure he’d admit he’s not at the level he was 5 or 10 years ago.

I like Atkin, but I don’t think he’d make a big or immediate difference. His form hasn’t been great so far this season either. If it was him in the halves and McGuire on the bench, there’d likely be calls for our experienced, highly-paid, multiple grand final winning, former international to come back in to steady the ship after defeats.

Re: Three scores up and... : Sun Feb 24, 2019 1:54 pm  

That were we differ MR. I think Atkins form hasn’t been great because he hasn’t been played in his correct position. He’s no full back and we all know that.
And if you think Maguire is 5 years past it then that pretty much answers my question with who should partner Drinkwater.

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Re: Three scores up and... : Sun Feb 24, 2019 2:41 pm  

Hessle rover wrote:

That were we differ MR. I think Atkins form hasn’t been great because he hasn’t been played in his correct position. He’s no full back and we all know that.
And if you think Maguire is 5 years past it then that pretty much answers my question with who should partner Drinkwater.

I think he’s 5 or more years past his best, but it was quite a best. Atkin will do well to ever get to that level.

I like Atkin and can definitely see a case for playing him at halfback. But he’s still learning. Being picked for the Knights was a great achievement a year after joining us from Swinton - but it is ‘just’ a development squad.

Who is better, right now? not much in it imo. Atkin will get his chance, i’m sure.