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Re: Opener versus Cas Tigers : Mon Feb 08, 2016 8:07 pm  
Shenton ACL season ender !
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Re: Opener versus Cas Tigers : Mon Feb 08, 2016 8:08 pm  
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defo ban 12 matches, no in all seriousness cant see out wrong imo he just seemed to fall badly


Boudebza uses his thigh to lever the side of Shenton's knee, nasty tactic.

Shenton probably done for the season....guy who does it gets 2 games at most....justice :CRAZY:
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Re: Opener versus Cas Tigers : Mon Feb 08, 2016 8:31 pm  
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Boudebza uses his thigh to lever the side of Shenton's knee, nasty tactic.

Shenton probably done for the season....guy who does it gets 2 games at most....justice :CRAZY:

If Shenton has a bad injury that's unfortunate, but that's all it is, no malice whatsoever in Boudebza's tackle. If there is any justice the hearing will dismiss this based on the footage available on Sky Sports.
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Re: Opener versus Cas Tigers : Mon Feb 08, 2016 8:40 pm  
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If Shenton has a bad injury that's unfortunate, but that's all it is, no malice whatsoever in Boudebza's tackle. If there is any justice the hearing will dismiss this based on the footage available on Sky Sports.

The Sky footage clearly shows he goes in 3rd man, low then when he misses his knee with the shoulder he levers the side of it with his thigh instead. An ACL injury is consistent with trauma to the side of the Knee which is the exact place Boudebza applied the pressure.

Fully expect the RFL to cop out of it and cry poor camera angles, it's just how they work.

It wasn't a cannonball tackle though, which is why it isn't the same grade as Chase last season but it is undue pressure - the same as a grapple or chicken wing.
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Re: Opener versus Cas Tigers : Mon Feb 08, 2016 9:03 pm  
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The Sky footage clearly shows he goes in 3rd man, low then when he misses his knee with the shoulder he levers the side of it with his thigh instead. An ACL injury is consistent with trauma to the side of the Knee which is the exact place Boudebza applied the pressure.

Fully expect the RFL to cop out of it and cry poor camera angles, it's just how they work.

It wasn't a cannonball tackle though, which is why it isn't the same grade as Chase last season but it is undue pressure - the same as a grapple or chicken wing.

You either have a vivid imagination or access to another angle, as the only footage I have seen shows nothing like you describe.
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Re: Opener versus Cas Tigers : Mon Feb 08, 2016 9:53 pm  
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Boudebza uses his thigh to lever the side of Shenton's knee, nasty tactic.

Shenton probably done for the season....guy who does it gets 2 games at most....justice :CRAZY:

Saw it live yesterday and just watched it several times earlier on our Hull KR TV channel. No malice or intent. Looks very routine and innocuous. Shenton was still moving forward and not fully held when Boudebza came in to tackle and halt him.

To me the contact looked normal and the resultant injury was a freak accident imo. Commentators, Cas and Rovers players all displayed no adverse reaction and seemed surprised that Shenton stayed down. Whilst I appreciate the outcome is really unfortunate for your captain, a great player and nice guy, on that visual evidence Boudebza should escape a ban, despite the
unnecessary attempts of Darryl Powell to paint a more malicious scenario.
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Re: Opener versus Cas Tigers : Mon Feb 08, 2016 10:06 pm  
Sorry to hear of his injury,but like the rest feel there was no intent at all imo.
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Re: Opener versus Cas Tigers : Mon Feb 08, 2016 10:15 pm  
I feel sorry for Shenton, and like most folk even having looked at the incident, if Shenton had got up and played the ball, it wouldnt have even been discussed, let alone John getting pinged for a grade B
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Re: Opener versus Cas Tigers : Mon Feb 08, 2016 10:18 pm  
He also had both of our 18 stone props applying simultaneous downward pressure on him after the Boudebza contact as well, which might have contributed to the unfortunate outcome.
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Re: Opener versus Cas Tigers : Mon Feb 08, 2016 10:51 pm  
It looked to me like a really unfortunate contact, one where Shenton's knee caught the effect of several factors. The pitch was very heavy yesterday, one were you're not going to be able to set yourself under a barrage of defenders. You're not going to be able to keep your feet.

I don't think Boudebza did anything wrong but if he did then he deserves a ban.

My main concern is Michael Shenton.

I hope to see him back on the pitch as soon as possible.
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