Re: Realistic aims : Mon Oct 10, 2016 12:17 am  

When the Lego,
Fits the arrsehole
And the Sun,
Shine's,
From the East.

Then,
As Sun Szu,
States,
Make the Lego arrse,

Your weakness,
For it shall be,
Your opponent's,
Downfall.

Edited to circumnavigate the software.

Re: Realistic aims : Mon Oct 10, 2016 8:43 am  

Mild Rover wrote:

You see, this is the sort of imprecise thinking that has led to relegation. Twoers, fourers, sixers? Those little ones that you use as headlights on cars? Without this information, your question is meaningless.

I seem to remember this issue being covered several times in off seasons gone by, wasn't it decided that the 2x2 was the iso standard, I hope so as that's what I've been practising with.

Re: Realistic aims : Mon Oct 10, 2016 9:36 am  

I know threads drift off from the original subject but this has gone from realistic aims to shoving Lego up you ar$e in 2 pages

Re: Realistic aims : Mon Oct 10, 2016 10:45 am  

After relegation lego is above our means. Stickle bricks up the trumper are probably more apt

Re: Realistic aims : Mon Oct 10, 2016 12:29 pm  

Reading the League Express is interesting. There's an interview with Hudge and he's claiming that there's been some 'difficult conversations' along the way with one or two players that we expected a bit more from. I believe that if you get us into this mess, you need to get us out of it, but some of the lads have started to run for the hills and look for the biggest payday.
Walker me thinks. But Mantellato, sio, thornley and Greenwood rumoured to be on the way out.
So after the good news of Blair and Lunt, it seems we're left with the dross.....unfortunately.

Re: Realistic aims : Mon Oct 10, 2016 1:03 pm  

Hessle rover wrote:

Reading the League Express is interesting. There's an interview with Hudge and he's claiming that there's been some 'difficult conversations' along the way with one or two players that we expected a bit more from. I believe that if you get us into this mess, you need to get us out of it, but some of the lads have started to run for the hills and look for the biggest payday.
Walker me thinks. But Mantellato, sio, thornley and Greenwood rumoured to be on the way out.
So after the good news of Blair and Lunt, it seems we're left with the dross.....unfortunately.

If we fail to keep Walker and Greenwood, plus we don't know about Tilse and Algood, and with Green already gone the pack looks very light.
I think T. S. needs to find us 2 great big Aussie grunters and J.P. to unearth 2 young developing stars of the future.
No pressure then!!

Re: Realistic aims : Mon Oct 10, 2016 1:34 pm  

Hessle rover wrote:

Reading the League Express is interesting. There's an interview with Hudge and he's claiming that there's been some 'difficult conversations' along the way with one or two players that we expected a bit more from. I believe that if you get us into this mess, you need to get us out of it, but some of the lads have started to run for the hills and look for the biggest payday.
Walker me thinks. But Mantellato, sio, thornley and Greenwood rumoured to be on the way out.
So after the good news of Blair and Lunt, it seems we're left with the dross.....unfortunately.

But it's Hudgell & Co that have got you into this mess through pi$£ poor recruitment and cap management.

The five you mentioned all had good seasons. They're only really accountable for their own performances, why should they sacrifice earnings or playing at a higher level because other people failed to do their bit?

I admire those like Lunt & Blair who are staying on and prepared to battle next year to get Rovers back up, but I don't think those who decide to leave should be vilified for doing so.

Re: Realistic aims : Mon Oct 10, 2016 1:46 pm  

Hessle Rover. I wouldn't call Thomas Minns dross, especially as it's rumoured we will keep him. However, if he goes to another club, James Greenwood will be a big loss IMO.

Reckon Cockayne, Clarkson, Donaldson, Marsh, Mulhern and Shaw will be retained. Ideally, we need Tilse and Mantellato to stay. Lunt, Lawler and Blair are reconfirmed along with last year's academy debutants.

Leavers:

Green's gone. Boudebza terminated. Sio, Thornley, Walker and Kelly all wanted elsewhere and if they can get a good gig and more money, then good luck to them. Campo should and will retire. Larroyer, Horne, Salter, Dixon and Allgood should also be leaving as none are really good enough on last year's showing.

Reckon 9 or 10 new faces are now required for next season.

Re: Realistic aims : Mon Oct 10, 2016 2:44 pm  

That was a bit of a sweeping statement on the whole team. But I wasn't thinking of Minns when I wrote that. Now he is one id keep.
Looks like Lawler has penned a deal to. That's also one I'm happy to keep.

[Mild Rover]

Re: Realistic aims : Mon Oct 10, 2016 3:00 pm  

DGM wrote:

But it's Hudgell & Co that have got you into this mess through pi$£ poor recruitment and cap management.

The five you mentioned all had good seasons. They're only really accountable for their own performances, why should they sacrifice earnings or playing at a higher level because other people failed to do their bit?

I admire those like Lunt & Blair who are staying on and prepared to battle next year to get Rovers back up, but I don't think those who decide to leave should be vilified for doing so.

Aye, it is pretty simple.

Players that want to stay or join have to convince the club that they will provide value, relative to realistic alternatives.

Players that the clubs wants, it has to convince that it is an attractive employer, relative to realistic alternatives.

Demanding players stay on as penance might be a useful way for some people to vent, but as a retention tool it is a chocolate teapot (or sticklebrick dildo, or whatever).

What works is what matters. Moral indignation won't.