Re: Promotion/Relegation : Tue Nov 15, 2016 2:53 pm  

Burtons Forearm wrote:

Didn't he start the thread?

I'm lost is the circus in town? Is it not in town? Is it a real circus? Who is Billysmart and has he/has he not got dyslexia? Is he a c#nt? On the evidence of his follow up post to this, he most definitely is!!

Has this thread been derailed or was it off the tracks in the first place?

Is this a real thread or not?

Did we get relegated? What the f#ck is going on?

We need more people in fishtails riding scooters to sort this out. Pronto.

Congratulations Burton. You must be chuffed to speak the same language as Billy Smarts Circus. Such an honour has rarely been bestowed. Where did you learn to speak fluent Uzbek then?

Re: Promotion/Relegation : Tue Nov 15, 2016 3:32 pm  

LifeLongHKRFan wrote:

Sky offered their deal well in advance of when the contract was up. No one else had even bid as the RFL hadn't asked for bids. Most people were annoyed at the fact the RFL didn't wait until the contract was up then inviting bids like previous deals. Sky basically had the RFL over a barrel stating that the offer on the table wouldn't be on the table if they went out to tender.

As I said though what was the option?

Say to SKY that we'll take our chances knowing full well terrestrial tv was never going to happen and the rest of the competition was (and still was at time of tender) far to immature to be a viable option at even a double money offer.

Yes there needs to be other avenues looked into next time but as a minority sport we have very little in the way of leverage and SKY know that

Re: Promotion/Relegation : Tue Nov 15, 2016 5:15 pm  

The RFL should be constantly schmoozing other broadcasters concurrent to this current SKY deal. That way they will know if there are any other interested parties. This would in turn facilitate a decision whether or not to go out to tender next time.

Looking at the waistlines of Wood and Barwick, it would appear they already have had several dummy runs off the back of large expense accounts.

Re: Promotion/Relegation : Wed Nov 16, 2016 4:30 pm  

LifeLongHKRFan wrote:

Sky offered their deal well in advance of when the contract was up. No one else had even bid as the RFL hadn't asked for bids. Most people were annoyed at the fact the RFL didn't wait until the contract was up then inviting bids like previous deals. Sky basically had the RFL over a barrel stating that the offer on the table wouldn't be on the table if they went out to tender.

this is exactly what winds me up about sky they pretend to be the big promoters and supporters of the game when in fact they are keeping our game down with no hope of catching the Aussys with now all our very best players moving to the NRL they are in effect broadcasting a second rate comp which you would think they wouldn't want to do , they want rugby league on the cheap and lets face it there getting it the only reason why we have a top tier of 12 teams is there is not enough TV money to cover the costs of the clubs simple

Re: Promotion/Relegation : Wed Nov 16, 2016 5:18 pm  

fc-eaststander wrote:

this is exactly what winds me up about sky they pretend to be the big promoters and supporters of the game when in fact they are keeping our game down with no hope of catching the Aussys with now all our very best players moving to the NRL they are in effect broadcasting a second rate comp which you would think they wouldn't want to do , they want rugby league on the cheap and lets face it there getting it the only reason why we have a top tier of 12 teams is there is not enough TV money to cover the costs of the clubs simple

Agree with all you say, but would add decisions made 30+ years ago started the rot! Moving from Saturday afternoons to Sunday. Those that remember, any sport on a Sunday was controversial but we went ahead as the powers that were thought it would reduce the clash with soccer. What it did do was alienate us from the London based media as they had their deadlines & Sundays did not fit. Until then, final score on the BBC always showed League results & tables. once we moved away from Saturdays that stopped. The live second half on the BBC also stopped as they were not prepared to show sport on a Sunday at that time. Yes Sky money at the time saved the game but the full cost of that move is coming home to roost now. I remember listening to an ex FC chairman explain that at the time of the Sky deal they had tried to give the game to the BBC as long as they committed to showing one live game a week at peak time & a magazine type show rounding up the rest of the games. He did say they would have made more from sponsors. with national prime time exposure than they originally got from sky. What we can do to save the game is not clear but we have a fight on with the cash now in soccer & union? The BBC now seem more interested in pushing American football than League. All that plus a rapid decline in player numbers it is going to be hard times.

Re: Promotion/Relegation : Wed Nov 16, 2016 5:25 pm  

Beverley red wrote:

Agree with all you say, but would add decisions made 30+ years ago started the rot! Moving from Saturday afternoons to Sunday. Those that remember, any sport on a Sunday was controversial but we went ahead as the powers that were thought it would reduce the clash with soccer. What it did do was alienate us from the London based media as they had their deadlines & Sundays did not fit. Until then, final score on the BBC always showed League results & tables. once we moved away from Saturdays that stopped. The live second half on the BBC also stopped as they were not prepared to show sport on a Sunday at that time. Yes Sky money at the time saved the game but the full cost of that move is coming home to roost now. I remember listening to an ex FC chairman explain that at the time of the Sky deal they had tried to give the game to the BBC as long as they committed to showing one live game a week at peak time & a magazine type show rounding up the rest of the games. He did say they would have made more from sponsors. with national prime time exposure than they originally got from sky. What we can do to save the game is not clear but we have a fight on with the cash now in soccer & union? The BBC now seem more interested in pushing American football than League. All that plus a rapid decline in player numbers it is going to be hard times.

The second half games that were shown on the BBC were always cup games not league games and they stopped when we got rid of the county cups and the JPS / regal trophy

Re: Promotion/Relegation : Wed Nov 16, 2016 5:34 pm  

fun time frankie wrote:

The second half games that were shown on the BBC were always cup games not league games and they stopped when we got rid of the county cups and the JPS / regal trophy

Trust me they also showed league matches ( I played in a couple) first half highlights followed by live second half results & league tables following. Yes there were a lot more competitions including midweek BBC floodlit trophy.

Re: Promotion/Relegation : Wed Nov 16, 2016 6:29 pm  

Beverley red wrote:

Trust me they also showed league matches ( I played in a couple) first half highlights followed by live second half results & league tables following. Yes there were a lot more competitions including midweek BBC floodlit trophy.

You are dead right because when it was on they had the football results on the bottom of the screen and at half time has well

Re: Promotion/Relegation : Wed Nov 16, 2016 10:49 pm  

Beverley red wrote:

Trust me they also showed league matches ( I played in a couple) first half highlights followed by live second half results & league tables following. Yes there were a lot more competitions including midweek BBC floodlit trophy.

With the cost of sport now especially football and rugby union to a degree you would think the BBC would be knocking our door down for a sport they could champion and show live on one of there channels with real value for money to the tax payer a Saturday afternoon slot for a super league or championship game to complete with football surely it would be worth a punt to them you would think

Re: Promotion/Relegation : Wed Nov 16, 2016 11:00 pm  

fc-eaststander wrote:

With the cost of sport now especially football and rugby union to a degree you would think the BBC would be knocking our door down for a sport they could champion and show live on one of there channels with real value for money to the tax payer a Saturday afternoon slot for a super league or championship game to complete with football surely it would be worth a punt to them you would think

The BBC have given up on sport