Re: That London : Sun Feb 17, 2019 9:02 pm  

Not a bad sign (wining while not playing well)? My first live game this season & I really don’t know how good or bad we are. At times our half back pair looked like they have had a fall out & wont talk to each other? Early on after that first score we threw the ball around like we were 30 points in front with seconds to go! Will be back Saturday but I haven’t a clue as to what I will be watching.

Re: That London : Sun Feb 17, 2019 9:31 pm  

Well, that was a proper toilet performance.

Bad points:

Our kicking game is shocking.
Our defensive effort for the most part was lazy at best. VaiVai had a defensive nightmare.
The team looked like they were just going through the motions for most the game.
The number of unforced errors was disappointing.
Why we haven’t learnt to put an opposition kicker under pressure yet, especially after Sneyd almost kicked us to death is beyond me.
And why have any player on the bench only to use them for the about last 6 minutes, especially when it’s Atkin who is arguably our most potent play maker.

Now the good points:
Dagger (as most fans suggested is a better natural fit at FB).
Garbutt, great performance again. Looks a better signing every game.
Hall had a decent game.
A win when playing that bad is a bonus.

Re: That London : Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:19 am  

fun time frankie wrote:

A wins a win I suppose scoring early didn’t seem to do us any favours because we were crap for the rest of the half Cunningham outplayed Drinkwater Atkin should be in the halves and I thought Dagger went well Masoe is becoming a luxury we can’t afford Garbutt went well again need a big improvement next week but I don’t want to take anything away from London who I think will be a lot better than people were predicting pre season

What is this often repeated horse sh#t about Masoe. A luxury, lazy. People seem to believe this nonsense based on his performances for Saints.
If he's lazy why has he lost 10 kg plus and why do we dominate when he's on the pitch. When he went off we had our worst spells. He took two hit ups in the first set and never stopped. He defends like a brick wall and the opposition attack avoid him. He also attracts lots of defenders in decoy runs.
It's repeated as fact this rubbish. He's been out second best forward behind Garbutt so far this year.
London will go well barring injuries. Their halves outplayed ours. McGuire's kicking game is awful Drinkwater needs to be allowed to run the games. It was Masoe and the forwards that won the game today.

Re: That London : Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:41 am  

Mose is lazy because he takes up the ball 6 or 7 times per game. Garbutt 25-30.

Re: That London : Mon Feb 18, 2019 2:34 am  

It's funny to see a couple of Newcastle Wests juniors from the same neighbourhood - Mitch Garbutt and Luke Yates - go up against each other on the other side of the world.
If they hadn't got ESL contracts, they'd probably be both playing for the Rosellas next weekend.

Re: That London : Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:59 am  

Thought Dagger was excellent at FB. Garbutt was obviously stand out but I too don't see all this bad vibes towards Mose. Yes he looks laboured sometimes and doesn't always break the tackle for a man of his size but he's worth his place on goal line defence alone. Lawler had a great game. VaiVai was poor defensively and needs some basic schoolboy positional training in my opinion.
On the whole their pace worried me the most. We didn't look to have anything like their energy levels in the first half but a good clinical job done in the second so well done boys.

Re: That London : Mon Feb 18, 2019 9:31 am  

His Bobness wrote:

Mose is lazy because he takes up the ball 6 or 7 times per game. Garbutt 25-30.

'Masoe is lazy'.....stop repeating sh#t without thinking. He can't take the ball up if they don't pass him it. He is used as a decoy more than anyone in our team. Watch the game back. He's the decoy for EVERY try we scored yesterday. He offers every set hits the line hard and gets us going forward. His defence? What's lazy about that? The opposition avoid him because he's a brutal tackler.
You compare him to the biggest metre maker in the league that's not a fare comparison also to a man with a very different role.
Sheens has Masoe playing short bursts so his carries have more impact and then so do his decoy plays. His short stints mean sometimes we're defending for the majority of the time he's on hence sometimes he gets few carries. It's not laziness that is just a terrible insult from lazy observers.
1st try yesterday inside dummy run from Masoe slows the defence for Linnett to get on the outside. Same for Garbutt's 1st try. His 2nd Garbutt throws a dummy to Masoe giving him room to get over. Hall's try Masoe again stop the defence drifting with a decoy run.
The opposition handle Garbutt and our other forwards a lot better when they don't have Masoe to worry about.
Masoe is slimmer and fitter than he has ever been. You don't lose weight being lazy. When he left the field we had our worst spells yesterday.
Please stop spouting assumed truths. Masoe being lazy is a lie and an insult to one of our best and most important players.

Re: That London : Mon Feb 18, 2019 9:36 am  

roopy wrote:

It's funny to see a couple of Newcastle Wests juniors from the same neighbourhood - Mitch Garbutt and Luke Yates - go up against each other on the other side of the world.
If they hadn't got ESL contracts, they'd probably be both playing for the Rosellas next weekend.

Or maybe they would come back to the NRL far better forwards and tear it up for evidence see

Burgess x3
Graham
Cooper
Hodgson
Soliola
Morley
Gavin Miller etc etc
There is a very long list of Englishmen and Aussies forwards who have come from our league and dominated the NRL. Something about our league improved the forwards.

Re: That London : Mon Feb 18, 2019 10:10 am  

Burtons Forearm wrote:

'Masoe is lazy'.....stop repeating sh#t without thinking. He can't take the ball up if they don't pass him it. He is used as a decoy more than anyone in our team. Watch the game back. He's the decoy for EVERY try we scored yesterday. He offers every set hits the line hard and gets us going forward. His defence? What's lazy about that? The opposition avoid him because he's a brutal tackler.
You compare him to the biggest metre maker in the league that's not a fare comparison also to a man with a very different role.
Sheens has Masoe playing short bursts so his carries have more impact and then so do his decoy plays. His short stints mean sometimes we're defending for the majority of the time he's on hence sometimes he gets few carries. It's not laziness that is just a terrible insult from lazy observers.
1st try yesterday inside dummy run from Masoe slows the defence for Linnett to get on the outside. Same for Garbutt's 1st try. His 2nd Garbutt throws a dummy to Masoe giving him room to get over. Hall's try Masoe again stop the defence drifting with a decoy run.
The opposition handle Garbutt and our other forwards a lot better when they don't have Masoe to worry about.
Masoe is slimmer and fitter than he has ever been. You don't lose weight being lazy. When he left the field we had our worst spells yesterday.
Please stop spouting assumed truths. Masoe being lazy is a lie and an insult to one of our best and most important players.

Didn’t he make something like 28m in the derby if you think this is enough then I’m glad your not our coach and saying they don’t pass to him well don’t stand third or fourth man out then and you might get the ball yeah he took the ball up twice in the first set then went missing for 15 mins in my mind he should be doing more when you compare him to our other props

Re: That London : Mon Feb 18, 2019 10:13 am  

His Bobness wrote:

Mose is lazy because he takes up the ball 6 or 7 times per game. Garbutt 25-30.

Also to just give evidence to Masoe's role. The 'lazy man makes 2-3 meters more than any of our forwards per carry, hence he attracts defenders all the time he is on. The 'lazy ' man has also missed 1 (one), that's ONE tackle all year. That's 1 out of 60 tackles. Terribly lazy.
Don't fuel a lie. Watch him not your pre conceptions.
Sheens doesn't tolerate laziness from anyone hence this is our fittest squad ever yet Sheens picks Masoe every week and signed him up to a long term contract.
Stop spouting lies. He's far from lazy it's an unjustified insult.