Re: Kevin Larroyer : Tue Dec 06, 2016 10:38 am  

BiltonRobin wrote:

The HDM reports today that Horne is not taking part in full training due to his ongoing back problems.
He will be reassessed in the new year. This is 1 month before the start of the season. so will not be match fit for some time.
Does this makes the Larroyer decision a little more strange?

When you look at the forwards now
Tilse
Lunt
Scruton
Clarke
Blair
Greenwood
Addy
Donaldson
Clarkson
Mulhearn
Milton
Lawler
Plus possibly some of the younger lads in the squad I think the club were justified in letting Larroyer go the way he was playing over the past couple is seasons.
I have stated I don't think the way he was being told to play helped him,but then that is only my opinion

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Re: Kevin Larroyer : Tue Dec 06, 2016 11:01 am  

Even without Horne, we could start with Blair-Addy-Greenwood, With Clarkson on the bench. For example.

If they were all injured we could put a prop at 13, with Donaldson and Lawler as our (admittedly undersized) second-row pairing. Cator or Milton on the bench. Probably still okay at this level if we're not too hard hit elsewhere.

Backrow is where we have most depth, IMO. Wing, fullback and prop would all be priorities ahead of another backrower.

Re: Kevin Larroyer : Tue Dec 06, 2016 2:26 pm  

easthull4 wrote:

When you look at the forwards now
Tilse
Lunt
Scruton
Clarke
Blair
Greenwood
Addy
Donaldson
Clarkson
Mulhearn
Milton
Plus possibly some of the younger lads in the squad I think the club were justified in letting Larroyer go the way he was playing over the past couple is seasons.
I have stated I don't think the way he was being told to play helped him,but then that is only my opinion

So taking all this into consideration, do we need a half fit player who didn't have a particularly good 2016 season taking up very much needed salary cap, or are we showing unfair loyalty to a "local lad" over an overseas player ?
for what it's worth, I think both should have been released

Re: Kevin Larroyer : Tue Dec 06, 2016 2:44 pm  

BiltonRobin wrote:

The HDM reports today that Horne is not taking part in full training due to his ongoing back problems.
He will be reassessed in the new year. This is 1 month before the start of the season. so will not be match fit for some time.
Does this makes the Larroyer decision a little more strange?

I think there is consensus on here that letting Larroyer go was the right decision, BR, due to his consistently sub par on field performances during the last 2 seasons. Perhaps the manner in which it was done by the club was questionable, especially from a communication standpoint.

That brings me nicely on to Graeme Horne. Would that be the same ongoing back problems that flared up when he missed those 2 vital tackles at the end of the MPG? If you listen to Jamie Peacock being interviewed today on Hull KR.TV, he twice refers to the fact that we were 2 missed tackles away from staying in Super League - a statement I agree 100% with.

I apologise in advance to Graeme Horne and any of his admirers for this seemingly matter of fact statement, but perversely it would do the club an immense favour if Horne was to succumb to this recurring back injury and retire from the game.

To me, his performances and contributions over the last 2 seasons have been just marginally better than Larroyer's, therefore undeserving of another 12 month contract imo. Perhaps Horne has already received the JP tap on the shoulder, my office in 10 minutes signal. In which case, the HDM article extract is marketing spin for the inevitable.

Re: Kevin Larroyer : Tue Dec 06, 2016 4:19 pm  

easthull4 wrote:

When you look at the forwards now
Tilse
Lunt
Scruton
Clarke
Blair
Greenwood
Addy
Donaldson
Clarkson
Mulhearn
Milton
Plus possibly some of the younger lads in the squad I think the club were justified in letting Larroyer go the way he was playing over the past couple is seasons.
I have stated I don't think the way he was being told to play helped him,but then that is only my opinion

You've missed off Lawler from your list. I can see Jubb and Moran having more game time this season as well, possibly Cator. I also expect us to sign another forward, most likely a big prop. It's hard to see where Horne would get a game anyway, unless we pencil him in as reserve centre.

In the event of that unthinkable scenario, we could kiss goodbye to any promotion hopes.

Re: Kevin Larroyer : Tue Dec 06, 2016 4:30 pm  

Pickering Red wrote:

To me, his performances and contributions over the last 2 seasons have been just marginally better than Larroyer's, therefore undeserving of another 12 month contract imo. Perhaps Horne has already received the JP tap on the shoulder, my office in 10 minutes signal. In which case, the HDM article extract is marketing spin for the inevitable.

I think with Horne having recently signed a Championship contract with us and him playing a part in pre-season training already, means he is in the coach's plans.

I read the mini-press release and took away that he was training, but due to his back condition he was not in "full" training yet. This might explain why it was a paragraph below a story, as it hardly seems newsworthy.

Re: Kevin Larroyer : Wed Dec 07, 2016 12:19 pm  

Pickering Red wrote:

You've missed off Lawler from your list. I can see Jubb and Moran having more game time this season as well, possibly Cator. I also expect us to sign another forward, most likely a big prop. It's hard to see where Horne would get a game anyway, unless we pencil him in as reserve centre.

In the event of that unthinkable scenario, we could kiss goodbye to any promotion hopes.

Added Lawler