Re: 2017 Improvements Already on the Pitch? : Mon Jan 23, 2017 4:22 pm  

Razor wrote:

ok your team did show passion on I hope you are back in super league ,my point was we played a very young team against you .

And your full strength side scraped by a league one side who'd never played a game before so I guess nobody is king

[Mild Rover]

Re: 2017 Improvements Already on the Pitch? : Mon Jan 23, 2017 4:35 pm  

Razor wrote:

ok your team did show passion on I hope you are back in super league ,my point was we played a very young team against you .

Absolutely, and apart from (arguably) Oldham in 2017 we didn't play a team as weak (no disrespect intended to the Hull youngsters) as the one you fielded in the friendly derby. However, Oldham did beat us.

So while we shouldn't get carried away with how much better we looked - I'd probably look like Jonah Lomu in his prime if I was playing under-8s - the very early signs were, with the relevant caveats, were positive.

A bit of confidence gained versus an understrength Hull, and then Leeds keeping our feet on the floor without embarrassing us. It's worked out pretty well.

Re: 2017 Improvements Already on the Pitch? : Mon Jan 23, 2017 6:23 pm  

fun time frankie wrote:

And your full strength side scraped by a league one side who'd never played a game before so I guess nobody is king

Come on Frankie, you are better than this...

Re: 2017 Improvements Already on the Pitch? : Mon Jan 23, 2017 6:31 pm  

full strength

Re: 2017 Improvements Already on the Pitch? : Mon Jan 23, 2017 7:00 pm  

Dave K. wrote:

Come on Frankie, you are better than this...

I'm not

Re: 2017 Improvements Already on the Pitch? : Mon Jan 23, 2017 7:06 pm  

The Hull FC lot on here really do seem a bit cut up that an fc team with an ave age of 22 got (as I understand it) beaten by a Kr team with an ave age of 23. Yes nobody is denying that fc had a young inexperienced side out, and we had at least half of our first choice 13. But we did what we needed to do, which was to beat what was put in front of us. Instead of whining at us, you would be better asking your club why they put such a weak side out against us.

[Mild Rover]

Re: 2017 Improvements Already on the Pitch? : Mon Jan 23, 2017 7:48 pm  

Rural Robin wrote:

you would be better asking your club why they put such a weak side out against us.

Hull are playing quite a few friendlies this year and seem to be waiting to ease in most of their senior players, while giving some of the more junior players a chance to stretch themselves.

The result doesn't and shouldn't matter. We looked like a good Championship team (which was a relief) playing against a team of very mixed ability. Leeds, playing a more familiar looking team, was always going to be a sterner test, but from what I've heard there were some encouraging signs, again allowing for the quality of the opposition.

Re: 2017 Improvements Already on the Pitch? : Mon Jan 23, 2017 9:02 pm  

I know necessity is the mother of invention, but Liam Salter in the second row as I witnessed at Leeds is stretching utility value assessments beyond credible limits Mr Sheens. It's hard enough seeing Chris Clarkson at prop.

What next - Ryan Shaw at loose forward or perhaps Graeme Horne at centre.

[R.B.A]

Re: 2017 Improvements Already on the Pitch? : Mon Jan 23, 2017 9:23 pm  

Pickering Red wrote:

I know necessity is the mother of invention, but Liam Salter in the second row as I witnessed at Leeds is stretching utility value assessments beyond credible limits Mr Sheens. It's hard enough seeing Chris Clarkson at prop.

What next - Ryan Shaw at loose forward or perhaps Graeme Horne at centre.

Id sooner see us experiment in trial matches rather than when the season starts. Personally I think that Salter is a good stone away from being able to play in the back row but don't forget that he played a big chunk of his Academy rugby as a second row forward (successfully too) so going forward it could be a viable option.
I am taking it that Sheens is looking at ways to accommodate Salter, Minns and Heffernan into his 17.

Re: 2017 Improvements Already on the Pitch? : Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:30 pm  

Mild Rover wrote:

I'd probably look like Jonah Lomu in his prime if I was playing under-8's.

Doubtful, more like Jona Lewie.