Re: Players next year : Wed Oct 19, 2016 3:25 pm  

Mild Rover wrote:

I've been looking forward to the confirmation of these two players. The squad is coming together now.

It's interesting what you say about Addy. I do think it's worth considering that it is probably easier to find backrowers than halfbacks, though. Also, after the last couple of seasons a 'lightweight' backrow is is not a concept many Rovers fans will be quick to buy into again, I imagine. With Blair, Clarkson and Lawler already signed up, I think I'd rather see Addy as stand-off/utility, instead of taking one of the remaining backrow spots in the squad. Depending on who else signs, whether Lawler focuses more on developing as a hooker etc.

Some serious work still to be done, your team will be good enough to finish top 2, but it's way off your side last year, which went down, Salford apart all your competition looks stronger. Hard to do recruitment at this late stage, when you didn't expect to be the championship, time for Sheens and Peacock to start earning their money.

Re: Players next year : Wed Oct 19, 2016 3:36 pm  

Dave K. wrote:

Some serious work still to be done, your team will be good enough to finish top 2, but it's way off your side last year, which went down, Salford apart all your competition looks stronger. Hard to do recruitment at this late stage, when you didn't expect to be the championship, time for Sheens and Peacock to start earning their money.

Bit harsh on Sheens to say start earning your money he's only been here 3 days

Re: Players next year : Wed Oct 19, 2016 3:51 pm  

fun time frankie wrote:

Bit harsh on Sheens to say start earning your money he's only been here 3 days

You would hope he has been working on recruitment since it looked like you might not come up, He was appointed unofficially months ago.

Re: Players next year : Wed Oct 19, 2016 4:06 pm  

Dave K. wrote:

You would hope he has been working on recruitment since it looked like you might not come up, He was appointed unofficially months ago.

Hard to gauge until the recruitment is confirmed, but I would assume that we will be no-where near cap this year, or at least at the start of it. I envisage that the side that starts the season will likely be very different to the one that contests the 8 (I'm obviously assuming we make the middle 8s).

I have no knowledge of how the salary cap works - and the next part is balls if the cap is pro-rated, but if you can get 4 players on a £200K pa contract that you pay for 3 months rather than 1 on £200K for a full year. You can see how the system can be played come the business end of the season.

Sheens money will be earned in moulding what we have into something that can win the league or make the top 2. Which will likely be a trickier task than I would like.

Re: Players next year : Wed Oct 19, 2016 4:16 pm  

Those wishing for Dixon to stay should think again IMO, he hasn't improved on any of his frailties so he's never going to be SL material, let him go.
Addy will play Loose forward so Clarkson can go to SR as a replacement for Greenwood if he goes, I'd prefer Greenwood to stay and put Clarkson on the bench though. If not, Frankie Mariano?
We're still light in the front row, so we need two more props (Cox?)
If we can keep Mantellatto and Shaw I would be very happy with our 3/4's. Just need an experienced Scrum Half (I'm worried that it might be Prince though).

Re: Players next year : Wed Oct 19, 2016 5:02 pm  

RoverAndOut wrote:

Hard to gauge until the recruitment is confirmed, but I would assume that we will be no-where near cap this year, or at least at the start of it. I envisage that the side that starts the season will likely be very different to the one that contests the 8 (I'm obviously assuming we make the middle 8s).

I have no knowledge of how the salary cap works - and the next part is balls if the cap is pro-rated, but if you can get 4 players on a £200K pa contract that you pay for 3 months rather than 1 on £200K for a full year. You can see how the system can be played come the business end of the season.

Sheens money will be earned in moulding what we have into something that can win the league or make the top 2. Which will likely be a trickier task than I would like.

A lot will depend on pass sales and that seems to be going positively so you will have some cap to play with, I'd expect you to leave a good chinch left for the middle 8's, you might be able to assemble a better team if you are not playing your halfs a 5th of your cap for not playing.

I've heard Greenwood has signed to stay which would be a massive boost.

Re: Players next year : Wed Oct 19, 2016 5:22 pm  

So, in the last few posts we have discovered that Dave K knows:

The job description : objectives of both Jamie Peacock and Tom Sheens.

The salaries of both the aforementioned Rovers employees.

The collective salaries of our half backs for the 2016 season.

How did the palm reading go at Hull fair last week?

[Mild Rover]

Re: Players next year : Wed Oct 19, 2016 5:59 pm  

Dave K. wrote:

Some serious work still to be done, your team will be good enough to finish top 2, but it's way off your side last year, which went down, Salford apart all your competition looks stronger. Hard to do recruitment at this late stage, when you didn't expect to be the championship, time for Sheens and Peacock to start earning their money.

There's a long way to go, and I'm not for one second underestimating the challenges Rovers face!

First fragile green shoots, though, which after the calamity of the season just gone is something to enjoy.

The squad won't be as strong on paper as in 2016, but hopefully some lessons will have been learned. Those that come from failure are those that stick with you, IMO.

As you say in a later post, Greenwood signing would be a boost. Not building a backrow to try to break the record for the most people that can squeeze into Mini Cooper, would be good.

Re: Players next year : Wed Oct 19, 2016 6:28 pm  

SirStan wrote:

So, in the last few posts we have discovered that Dave K knows:

The job description : objectives of both Jamie Peacock and Tom Sheens.

The salaries of both the aforementioned Rovers employees.

The collective salaries of our half backs for the 2016 season.

How did the palm reading go at Hull fair last week?

Like all on here, it's pretty much guess work, but it's obvious that most I've said won't be far off.

If you are after facts you are in the wrong place, one fact for you is, you don't even know your coaches name.

Re: Players next year : Wed Oct 19, 2016 6:53 pm  

Dave K. wrote:

Like all on here, it's pretty much guess work, but it's obvious that most I've said won't be far off.

If you are after facts you are in the wrong place, one fact for you is, you don't even know your coaches name.

Oh please, let's not begin to talk about typo's, it won't end well for you.