Re: Oh Dear - Things need to change.........QUICK : Wed Apr 04, 2018 2:08 pm  

Canada red wrote:

3 weeks ago Tim Sheens said Danny Tickle was being rested so he would be ready for the easter fixtures?.
He also stated he would utilise his full squad?.There was only one change in the starting 17 from friday to monday.
A few teams changed as many as 7 players.if as someone stated we have 35 in the squad take away the injured it should still have been possible to change four or five.

That's what surprised me. You had next to no chance of beating Wigan so I would have thought Sheens would have rotated the squad. Even with the injuries you have enough depth to make some changes. The rested players would have been fresh for the far more important Widnes game. The point about Tickle is interesting. Unless he's injured it's puzzling why he didn't play.

Re: Oh Dear - Things need to change.........QUICK : Wed Apr 04, 2018 2:25 pm  

Agree with some of the original post. We do need to be looking at signing some of our good young players (Atkin,Lawler,Mulhern,Oakes etc), to long term contracts. And look to build around them.

But we are were we were pretty much always going to be. This season was never really about challenging for the top 8'spot. But about making sure we get through the middle 8's unscathed and build to having a better squad next year. We always new that this squad was okay but not good enough to challenge for the top 8's. Be intresting If what i put on the chat thread is right about how many players are out of Contract this year. I can see there being a biggish turn over this year, not sure that's a good or bad thing.
We were always going to struggle with the easter programme. The way we lost was disappointing. But most people expected us to lose them both.
Main problem for me, is that we need to have 4 home games in the middle 8 with the way the championship is working out. Otherwise we could have 2/3 long trips. Which would not be ideal.
And at this moment it's hard to see were we're going to put a run of wins together to lift us up a couple of places.
It's beginning to remind me alot of the 2016 season, close and competitive in most games with the odd surprising win. Hopefully it will have a better outcome than that season.

Re: Oh Dear - Things need to change.........QUICK : Wed Apr 04, 2018 10:25 pm  

This is feck all like 2016.

Anyone who thinks you do anything other than survive as a promoted side is a pillock

We have no god (doesn't exist) right to be in this league.

You survive and then build.

Jesus fecking wept, the like's of Fax winning the League as a part-time out fit in 1985 under Chris Anderson was when?

1985.

And that was a massive shock.

Re: Oh Dear - Things need to change.........QUICK : Thu Apr 05, 2018 5:14 am  

Welcome back. .Hope Alls been well?

Re: Oh Dear - Things need to change.........QUICK : Thu Apr 05, 2018 9:05 am  

Sandro II Terrorista wrote:

This is feck all like 2016.

Anyone who thinks you do anything other than survive as a promoted side is a pillock

We have no god (doesn't exist) right to be in this league.

You survive and then build.

Jesus fecking wept, the like's of Fax winning the League as a part-time out fit in 1985 under Chris Anderson was when?

1985.

And that was a massive shock.

My god goose your back we have missed you on here hope you are back for good

[Mild Rover]

Re: Oh Dear - Things need to change.........QUICK : Thu Apr 05, 2018 9:09 am  

Sandro II Terrorista wrote:

This is feck all like 2016.

I agree. Results are similar, and it might even be that the final outcome is. There have been many worse SL teams than Rovers in 2016. Huddersfield in 2016, being an arguable example.

However, what was ‘special’ in 2016 was a seeming unwillingness to look reality in the face, and it largely felt self inflicted.

Now, partly resulting from that, we’re right up against it, but it at least feels like we’re trying to do our best rather than conform to notions of the ‘right’ way to run a club. There have been failures to match expectations - on recruitment for example. But at all levels it feels the effort is there and it’s in the right direction. That’s something you can rally behind even in weary adversity. 2016 was like one long face palm.

Re: Oh Dear - Things need to change.........QUICK : Thu Apr 05, 2018 11:41 am  

We seem a closer group which is understandable after majority of this team got us up from the Championship.Think the imports we had 2016 were of a higher quality . Mantellato and Sio were class.Kelly and Campese looked as good a pair as any.Blair was consistently good . Tilse Allgood didn't pull up any trees but I was in minority who liked Tilse. Campo was always injured and Kelly was a bad apple but compare that bunch to what we have now? I'd reckon there is a large saving being made as our current imports won't be commanding the wedge the relegated teams imports did? One good half and one high quality back rower and luck with injuries we have the makings of a good side, but it does feel like this season is about survival and maybe progress next?

Re: Oh Dear - Things need to change.........QUICK : Thu Apr 05, 2018 12:19 pm  

craig hkr wrote:

We seem a closer group which is understandable after majority of this team got us up from the Championship.Think the imports we had 2016 were of a higher quality . Mantellato and Sio were class.Kelly and Campese looked as good a pair as any.Blair was consistently good . Tilse Allgood didn't pull up any trees but I was in minority who liked Tilse. Campo was always injured and Kelly was a bad apple but compare that bunch to what we have now? I'd reckon there is a large saving being made as our current imports won't be commanding the wedge the relegated teams imports did? One good half and one high quality back rower and luck with injuries we have the makings of a good side, but it does feel like this season is about survival and maybe progress next?

Agree and hope you are right

Re: Oh Dear - Things need to change.........QUICK : Thu Apr 05, 2018 12:57 pm  

This Saturdays game has a 'must win' feel to it but in reality it isn't.Saying that if we are going to sneak 8th then it probably is?The team felt after Catalan they deserved more and served up a treat at Hudds.After Saints Hull and Wig on the spin I'm hoping for a fired up aggressive performance for the fans and for me Widnes are the poorest squad on paper,they are however well drilled and rugged pack.Interesting game in store

Re: Oh Dear - Things need to change.........QUICK : Thu Apr 05, 2018 1:48 pm  

craig hkr wrote:

This Saturdays game has a 'must win' feel to it but in reality it isn't.Saying that if we are going to sneak 8th then it probably is?The team felt after Catalan they deserved more and served up a treat at Hudds.After Saints Hull and Wig on the spin I'm hoping for a fired up aggressive performance for the fans and for me Widnes are the poorest squad on paper,they are however well drilled and rugged pack.Interesting game in store

This is a must win game we can't afford a defeat at home to our rivals in our 5 team mini league