[Mild Rover]

Re: Widnes H : Sun Apr 08, 2018 1:47 pm  

craig hkr wrote:

we are doing ok

Yeah, just about after yesterday’s result.

We’ve worked hard but often been scratchy, and still have some areas of fairly profound weakness, imo. Without Widnes’s injury woes, we might not have eased away from in the last quarter. But you have to take your chances, and yesterday we did - that’s the main thing. The effort is definitely there.

Re: Widnes H : Sun Apr 08, 2018 6:09 pm  

fun time frankie wrote:

I'd have Blair ahead of a couple of your SRs he's a SR that's a decent centre a good half back with a decent kicking game not many SRs have that in there game

I'd probably take him over washbrook to be fair but he's a long way off minichello and manu

Re: Widnes H : Sun Apr 08, 2018 6:38 pm  

Take your black n white specs off. I'd say Minichello has been good for you considering he didn't arrive with much fanfare?.Runs good lines but looks past his best now? Manu looks good when I've watched him and him Ellis and Mini were best back row for few year.Blair isn't a physically big 2nd row but he offers more in attack I'd say and as mentioned can cover centre and half to a good standard.More importantly he gives his all every game.On paper you're probably correct but Blair will be tough to replace for us?

Re: Widnes H : Sun Apr 08, 2018 7:33 pm  

I'm a massive fan of Bobby, but Friday night apart I don't think he has it in him on a week to week basis.

2015 and 16 he was excellent, last year he should have murdered anyone who came near him, he didn't.

He's a player going through the motions and unless he can rediscover his previous form and desire at 34 he need to let it go.

Re: Widnes H : Sun Apr 08, 2018 7:39 pm  

Sandro II Terrorista wrote:

I'm a massive fan of Bobby, but Friday night apart I don't think he has it in him on a week to week basis.

2015 and 16 he was excellent, last year he should have murdered anyone who came near him, he didn't.

He's a player going through the motions and unless he can rediscover his previous form and desire at 34 he need to let it go.

I think he's retiring at the end of the season I agree last season he seemed to go through the motions but I think he's been excellent this season

Re: Widnes H : Sun Apr 08, 2018 7:44 pm  

fun time frankie wrote:

I think he's retiring at the end of the season I agree last season he seemed to go through the motions but I think he's been excellent this season

Pity he didn't play in the derby then or you might have won

Re: Widnes H : Sun Apr 08, 2018 7:46 pm  

Think he'll be appreciated a bit more when he has retired? Agree about last year but he wasn't on his own there.Does a lot of hard graft and v Hudds and yesterday was immense

Re: Widnes H : Sun Apr 08, 2018 7:55 pm  

I think he has been good this season and certainly not a passenger, but when you've seen when you've seen his best you know he isn't there. 2015 and 2016 were as good a 2nd rower for HKR as I've seen since Galea or Newton in their pomp, albeit in a team not good enough for him.

He doesn't have the line break that he had a couple of seasons ago, so I have no problems in saying he isn't as good as he was. The 2015/2016 version could get into most SL backrows, the current version most prob still has merit for inclusion in some, but he needs a lot more nights like Saturday to be considered as a relevant top SL backrower.

Re: Widnes H : Sun Apr 08, 2018 8:21 pm  

RoverAndOut wrote:

I think he has been good this season and certainly not a passenger, but when you've seen when you've seen his best you know he isn't there. 2015 and 2016 were as good a 2nd rower for HKR as I've seen since Galea or Newton in their pomp, albeit in a team not good enough for him.

He doesn't have the line break that he had a couple of seasons ago, so I have no problems in saying he isn't as good as he was. The 2015/2016 version could get into most SL backrows, the current version most prob still has merit for inclusion in some, but he needs a lot more nights like Saturday to be considered as a relevant top SL backrower.

In 2016 he played half back for most of the season

Re: Widnes H : Sun Apr 08, 2018 8:59 pm  

Other than telling me ur a bit pedantic I aren't sure how to respond???

His ability to cover the halves doesn't make him a bad 2nd row option, just as the occasions when Newton covered centre and Galea covered the halves didn't make them any less of a 2nd row.