[Mild Rover]

Re: FC Finally Win At Wembley in an Absolute Classic : Mon Aug 29, 2016 1:18 pm  

barham red wrote:

You doing the treble would be great if it was all stripped away due to salary cap issues, and relegation was the penalty but we'll see. Have a good day out this aft, shirt wash day on Wednesday, must be a worse stink than Leeds fest at closing time..

While their squad if very large, and the rules are opaque, I think any doubts spring from the surprising success they've had. It is the same squad I (and plenty of others) thought, in January, would do well to come in sixth, and they're paying the same now as then.

At the start of the season they didn't look to have extracted amazing value from the cap, but by playing to their strengths they've enjoyed success.

Conversely, I didn't think our squad looked such poor value back then. Though only signing Mulhern and Clarkson in the forwards was definitely a worry.

Re: FC Finally Win At Wembley in an Absolute Classic : Mon Aug 29, 2016 4:01 pm  

Hull's team is half local lads who will be playing for significantly less than their opposite numbers at rovers. The only big earners I reckon will be pritchard (who is having some of his salary paid by (canterbury), ellis and sneyd. We have quite a rigid wage structure in place and won't pay over the odds. I'd guess most of our squad earns less than dane tilse

Re: FC Finally Win At Wembley in an Absolute Classic : Mon Aug 29, 2016 4:05 pm  

Pickering Red wrote:

Grudgingly pleased for Hull. Not the classic final of 2005 vs. Leeds imo, but a gutsy and deserved win.

You've got to admire the players passion for the Hull shirt and the sheer siege mentality in keeping their nerve, holding their defensive shape and not allowing Warrington over their line again after Ben Currie's 2nd try.

Rode their luck and earned their win. Well done, Hull. Now go and do the treble for the city.

As for Jake the Peg wanting us relegated. Utter tosh. He has a man crush on Dane Tilse.

I don't like tall men

Re: FC Finally Win At Wembley in an Absolute Classic : Mon Aug 29, 2016 5:34 pm  

Mild Rover wrote:

Completely agree, br. It'd have been a bit galling if they'd had a jammy draw and then Wire had put in a sub-par performance in the final. But they earned it, so credit where it is due.

It has been an astonishing season. Their team still doesn't look all that on paper to me - there were seven or eight in that team that I'd be deeply unexcited about signing for Rovers. Pritchard as well, given he's supposedly marquee. But as a collective they've got it done week in, week out. And that is admirable - depressingly so.

At the other end of the spectrum - Leeds.

And it is heartening to see that SL has still/again has the capacity to surprise. Where there is change there is opportunity.

Just out of interest which of the players would you be underwhelmed with? Not saying you are wrong and all our players are great, I'm always interested to see a neutrals (ish) views.

I'm guessing you will say Yeaman and Michaels, and perhaps Washbrook and Tuimavave (looks far better at centre) the rest are very good players that would improve most teams imo.

Re: FC Finally Win At Wembley in an Absolute Classic : Mon Aug 29, 2016 6:26 pm  

Mr. Zucchini Head wrote:

Just out of interest which of the players would you be underwhelmed with? Not saying you are wrong and all our players are great, I'm always interested to see a neutrals (ish) views.

I'm guessing you will say Yeaman and Michaels, and perhaps Washbrook and Tuimavave (looks far better at centre) the rest are very good players that would improve most teams imo.

If I could pick 5 players out of your team to play in mine Shaul is the only back I'd take (although I like michaels he wouldn't displace Sio or mantallato for me ) Ellis, Minichello, Taylor and either Watts or Houghton

Re: FC Finally Win At Wembley in an Absolute Classic : Mon Aug 29, 2016 6:41 pm  

fun time frankie wrote:

If I could pick 5 players out of your team to play in mine Shaul is the only back I'd take (although I like michaels he wouldn't displace Sio or mantallato for me ) Ellis, Minichello, Taylor and either Watts or Houghton

Re: FC Finally Win At Wembley in an Absolute Classic : Mon Aug 29, 2016 6:45 pm  

fun time frankie wrote:

If I could pick 5 players out of your team to play in mine Shaul is the only back I'd take (although I like michaels he wouldn't displace Sio or mantallato for me ) Ellis, Minichello, Taylor and either Watts or Houghton

Yeah, I can see why you'd take thornley over fonua and mantellato over talanoa and I don't think you'd even consider sneyd over your 40 minute a season half back.

Conversely there's not one player in your team who would even get into our 17

[Mild Rover]

Re: FC Finally Win At Wembley in an Absolute Classic : Mon Aug 29, 2016 6:48 pm  

Mr. Zucchini Head wrote:

Just out of interest which of the players would you be underwhelmed with? Not saying you are wrong and all our players are great, I'm always interested to see a neutrals (ish) views.

I'm guessing you will say Yeaman and Michaels, and perhaps Washbrook and Tuimavave (looks far better at centre) the rest are very good players that would improve most teams imo.

I think Radford deserves enormous credit for getting fairly unheralded players like Washbrook, Green and Bowden to place where they can contribute meaningfully to the success you're having. All on the bench on Saturday, but it is a 17 man game nowadays. Put them into the rovers set-up of the last few years, and they'd likely go from quietly effective to completely anonymous. Same if we signed somebody like Dom Crosby. Ryan Bailey contributed basically nothing for us, now probably the third best prop in a good team.

Tuimavave would probably have been one of those 'waste of a quota spot' players for us. Talanoa and Michaels, fall into the 'not going to get you to the next level' and Dave K's 'don't use quota spots on wingers' argument.

Yeaman, setting aside the antipathy some Rovers fans have towards him, and his age - still a good player IMO.

Re: FC Finally Win At Wembley in an Absolute Classic : Mon Aug 29, 2016 6:59 pm  

Jake the Peg wrote:

Yeah, I can see why you'd take thornley over fonua and mantellato over talanoa and I don't think you'd even consider sneyd over your 40 minute a season half back.

Conversely there's not one player in your team who would even get into our 17

I think "fun time frankie" just won "Stupidest Post of 2016". Still laughing.

[Mild Rover]

Re: FC Finally Win At Wembley in an Absolute Classic : Mon Aug 29, 2016 7:05 pm  

Bal wrote:

I think "fun time frankie" just won "Stupidest Post of 2016". Still laughing.

Tbf, from a self-imposed limit of 5 players he could hypothetically take, I don't think Shaul, Taylor, Minichello, Ellis and Watts/Houghton is a daft selection. It'd certainly overlap with mine.

If you're just saying that Michaels is a different league to Sio, or even a fit Mantellato - well I think it is debatable at very least.