Re: vs Castleford : Fri Mar 30, 2012 9:45 pm  

chas1hkr wrote:

Would never have a go at our board,but if we are honest we have been going backwards now since we finished 4th,instead of kicking on like huddersfield who are consistently in the top 6 we are struggling to make the playoffs.How we change this i dont know but ask yourself this if you are Scott Taylor,Josh Hodgson,etc would you want to sign long term contracts when we dont seem to be improving.

That my friend is known as variation and is the reason why it is simply wrong to think that because we finished 4th one year we can "kick on" and results like that should be an expectation.

Re: vs Castleford : Fri Mar 30, 2012 9:51 pm  

Easty wrote:

The season we finished 4th I feel we over achieved massively. This season so far we've only played 1/3rd of the season. Massive room for improvement but the season is far from over. Keep the faith.

Hope i am wrong but i just dont see our coach been able to turn it around even if we have a fully fit squad,think hiring an inexperienced coach is biting us in the backside.Blaming referees every week doesn't cut it for me,you have to look at yourself,dont give the ref a chance to affect you by taking care of the oppisition yourself.

Re: vs Castleford : Fri Mar 30, 2012 9:55 pm  

Barnacle Bill wrote:

That my friend is known as variation and is the reason why it is simply wrong to think that because we finished 4th one year we can "kick on" and results like that should be an expectation.

Dont expect us to win the league,but if we are spending near the cap would think we should not be struggling to make the playoffs,would have took Brian Noble in a heartbeat at least we would be better organised instead of gambling on a coach who was coaching junors until 2 or 3 years ago.

Re: vs Castleford : Fri Mar 30, 2012 9:56 pm  

chas1hkr wrote:

Hope i am wrong but i just dont see our coach been able to turn it around even if we have a fully fit squad,think hiring an inexperienced coach is biting us in the backside.Blaming referees every week doesn't cut it for me,you have to look at yourself,dont give the ref a chance to affect you by taking care of the oppisition yourself.

His attacking structures without Green and Galea is awesome and we have no trouble scoring points. We have to remember Sandercock has only brought in three players. The rest of the team he inherited from the Morgan era. Have faith we've had a massive clear out a new coach with new structures and only 9 games into the season with a silly run of injuries..

Rally round and keep the faith.

[Mild Rover]

Re: vs Castleford : Fri Mar 30, 2012 9:58 pm  

chas1hkr wrote:

Would never have a go at our board,but if we are honest we have been going backwards now since we finished 4th,instead of kicking on like huddersfield who are consistently in the top 6 we are struggling to make the playoffs.How we change this i dont know but ask yourself this if you are Scott Taylor,Josh Hodgson,etc would you want to sign long term contracts when we dont seem to be improving.

Davy (sp?) can pay fees for players, which is a big help. Add to that a batch youngsters developing well and the appointment of Brown and it's been a good few years for them.

Hudgell said something along the lines of our having waited to long to bring in a new coach, but that is with hindsight. Morgan's record was impeccable, but we did plateau under him at the . Is that blameworthy, when you can't buy players and you don't have players have an academy like Saints'?

There's a balance to be struck and if you're not one of the richest clubs the margin for error is narrow.

We are at a crossroads, and it'll be interesting to see how this phase develops.

One thing I like about CS, is that he comes across as quite precise. Given time, I hope he can get us playing smarter. Even then, without more money, from benefactors or on the gate (an upward spiral future is possible too!), you have to be realistic.

Re: vs Castleford : Fri Mar 30, 2012 10:01 pm  

Easty wrote:

His attacking structures without Green and Galea is awesome and we have no trouble scoring points. We have to remember Sandercock has only brought in three players. The rest of the team he inherited from the Morgan era. Have faith we've had a massive clear out a new coach with new structures and only 9 games into the season with a silly run of injuries..

Rally round and keep the faith.

So who do we think is leaving after the season then,any names on who is coming in besides paes brother if true?

[Mild Rover]

Re: vs Castleford : Fri Mar 30, 2012 10:04 pm  

Easty wrote:

The season we finished 4th I feel we over achieved massively. This season so far we've only played 1/3rd of the season. Massive room for improvement but the season is far from over. Keep the faith.

S'all about opinions of course, but I think that is harsh. I think we peaked that year, but over 27 rounds it was a fair reflection of where we stood at the time. That it wasn't sustained doesn't mean it was a fluke, IMO.

Re: vs Castleford : Fri Mar 30, 2012 10:09 pm  

Mild Rover wrote:

Davy (sp?) can pay fees for players, which is a big help. Add to that a batch youngsters developing well and the appointment of Brown and it's been a good few years for them.

Hudgell said something along the lines of our having waited to long to bring in a new coach, but that is with hindsight. Morgan's record was impeccable, but we did plateau under him at the . Is that blameworthy, when you can't buy players and you don't have players have an academy like Saints'?

There's a balance to be struck and if you're not one of the richest clubs the margin for error is narrow.

We are at a crossroads, and it'll be interesting to see how this phase develops.

One thing I like about CS, is that he comes across as quite precise. Given time, I hope he can get us playing smarter. Even then, without more money, from benefactors or on the gate (an upward spiral future is possible too!), you have to be realistic.

Also meant to say i also think CS talks a lot of sense but we are a 1/3rd of the way through the season and defensively we get no better,scoring points no problem but would have thought when you have injuries the one thing you can get right is your defence,hope i'm proved wrong but we will be lucky to make the playoffs this year.

Re: vs Castleford : Fri Mar 30, 2012 10:11 pm  

chas1hkr wrote:

Also meant to say i also think CS talks a lot of sense but we are a 1/3rd of the way through the season and defensively we get no better,scoring points no problem but would have thought when you have injuries the one thing you can get right is your defence,hope i'm proved wrong but we will be lucky to make the playoffs this year.

Think we'll easily make the playoffs. Still 2/3rd of the season remain. A massive influx of players like those below means it's going to take time. The signs are encouraging.

David Hodgson (Huddersfield)
Graham Horne (Huddersfield)
Ryan O'Hara (Crusaders)
Lincoln Withers (Crusaders)
George Griffin (Queanbeyan Kangaroos)
Mickey Paea (Canterbury Bulldogs)
Keal Carlile (Huddersfield)
Constantine Mika (Newcastle)
Shannon McDonnell (Newcastle)

Re: vs Castleford : Fri Mar 30, 2012 10:15 pm  

Easty wrote:

Think we'll easily make the playoffs. Still 2/3rd of the season remain. A massive influx of players like those below means it's going to take time. The signs are encouraging.

David Hodgson (Huddersfield)
Graham Horne (Huddersfield)
Ryan O'Hara (Crusaders)
Lincoln Withers (Crusaders)
George Griffin (Queanbeyan Kangaroos)
Mickey Paea (Canterbury Bulldogs)
Keal Carlile (Huddersfield)
Constantine Mika (Newcastle)
Shannon McDonnell (Newcastle)

Who are the players rumoured to leaving/coming in for 2013 then?