Re: Catalans game : Fri Apr 08, 2016 5:06 pm  

☺East-Sard☺ wrote:

In a season with few highs thus far, we'll take what we can thank you. Given our current circumstances, such moments like our first league victory away from Hull since 2014, will be regarded as a positive thing to us. Your condescending arrogance to feel the notion to put this down and not understand the context of such comment, shows - you just don't get what it's like to travel to most games realistically expecting to lose.

The good news is that are experiencing just that at the moment. Long may it continue.

Re: Catalans game : Fri Apr 08, 2016 5:16 pm  

dayvoz wrote:

You couldn't have been predicting grand finals for Catalan after the 10 -38 result against Hull,surely.

Every team lose one or 2 a season look at Leeds last season and they won the lot I still think this is their year but do not know if they will win it

Re: Catalans game : Fri Apr 08, 2016 6:02 pm  

It's a good read this thread...with a few exceptions.

Last night Catalan were excellent...helped by some eccentric officiating. Best team we've played. Myler has a kicking game!!! Stewart was exceptional. He marked Blair out of the game. Thought our forwards held their own despite the score. Without Blair we were hopeless with the ball. The other 2 pivots don't have the ability to play catch up rugby.

Our problem is 3 poor coaching appointments on the trot. Webster has improved us....a bit.

These coaches have all recruited poorly. Cats Wire and Widnes recruited to complete a balanced squad. We have not.

Mulhern Minns Greenwood show real promise for the future. Clarkson....pah.

I believe I may have advocated for Dixon in the past and he is an exceptional runner of the ball but......last night he bottled out of defensive duties almost every time. He's shot at the moment and Cats exploited him like Leeds couldn't.
Maybe Oakes gets a go against Oldham.

Why.....why....WHY can't we get Sio in the game.

Where did Marsh hide last night.

We need some surgery for next season to not be bottom 4 again.

Well get some more beatings this year. Well win some. The coach shouldn't publicly make excuses...real or not..for a 40-0 beating at home. He should say publicly it is unacceptable. Wane wouldn't tolerate it Ferguson Mourinho etc. Webster shouldn't either or the players will lose confidence in themselves and him.

Re: Catalans game : Fri Apr 08, 2016 6:18 pm  

What or where is our "tone from the top" these days? Hudgell, Smith, Peacock? Crossland only communication is to claim we're at full cap and talk about the fan survey which is reminiscent of the infamous steering group that died in its backside.

The atmosphere was sterile last night and with current performances and league position we cannot be expected to attract better players. Silence on the new "top line" coach. Falling attendances.

As others have said perhaps 10th is simply where we are and all we can afford. I remain unconvinced that our 25 man squad is the same cost as our opposition last night.

Finally is Ken Sio's final year (2017) activated or an option?

Re: Catalans game : Fri Apr 08, 2016 6:24 pm  

Sio signed a straight 3 year deal.

[Mild Rover]

Re: Catalans game : Fri Apr 08, 2016 7:09 pm  

hull2524 wrote:

In fairness you have a lot of your squad injured. But how many of them are in your first team if fit? 4 ?

Going off my memory of the 1-17 - Mantellato, Salter, Campese, Kelly, Horne, Larroyer and Donaldson.

Obviously there's a couple more in Boudebza and Shaw.

Minns might be ahead of Salter for some. But Shaw might be ahead of Dixon, so swings and roundabouts. 7 would be more accurate than 4 IMO, though everybody has injuries and I would not pretend all 7 are world beaters.
The issue is our depth, or rather our lack of it. That is an issue in terms of quality and being able to freshen things up. 3 more fit, SL quality players and we'd be coping better.

Doing alright for props, in contrast to last year.

Re: Catalans game : Fri Apr 08, 2016 7:43 pm  

ComeOnYouUll wrote:

Last night six carries for a total of 36 metres.

I'm not in the "Tilse is rubbish brigade" but I just really cannot understand his performances.

Against Leeds, I'm pretty sure he took two drives in more than one set, and then to go to a total of six in a full game is just unfathomable.

Maybe we need to shove a scotch bonnet up his Iestyn before every game.

Re: Catalans game : Fri Apr 08, 2016 8:12 pm  

Burtons Forearm wrote:

It's a good read this thread...with a few exceptions.

Last night Catalan were excellent...helped by some eccentric officiating. Best team we've played. Myler has a kicking game!!! Stewart was exceptional. He marked Blair out of the game. Thought our forwards held their own despite the score. Without Blair we were hopeless with the ball. The other 2 pivots don't have the ability to play catch up rugby.

Our problem is 3 poor coaching appointments on the trot. Webster has improved us....a bit.

These coaches have all recruited poorly. Cats Wire and Widnes recruited to complete a balanced squad. We have not.

Mulhern Minns Greenwood show real promise for the future. Clarkson....pah.

I believe I may have advocated for Dixon in the past and he is an exceptional runner of the ball but......last night he bottled out of defensive duties almost every time. He's shot at the moment and Cats exploited him like Leeds couldn't.
Maybe Oakes gets a go against Oldham.

Why.....why....WHY can't we get Sio in the game.

Where did Marsh hide last night.

We need some surgery for next season to not be bottom 4 again.

Well get some more beatings this year. Well win some. The coach shouldn't publicly make excuses...real or not..for a 40-0 beating at home. He should say publicly it is unacceptable. Wane wouldn't tolerate it Ferguson Mourinho etc. Webster shouldn't either or the players will lose confidence in themselves and him.

I love this post BF. Right on the money in pretty much every respect.

I especially like the last para about our coach's excuse, but without reference to to**ers from football. There was no excuse for last night's lame duck effort. Certainly not tiredness or thin squad and for those who want a graphic illustration of how to beat fatigue and injuries and take it to a team at the top of the tree, look at the effort and intensity put in by Saints in the first half of their game on Sky tonight against Wire. We just didn't perform, we went back to being lateral in attack and soft in defence and Cats were unrelentingly good at exploiting our predictability.

We need to learn fast and move on.

Re: Catalans game : Fri Apr 08, 2016 9:00 pm  

Was it Freudian of Eddie On Sky last night when after four minutes of commentary he referred to James Webster inadvertently as James Waster?

Re: Catalans game : Fri Apr 08, 2016 9:39 pm  

as George Formby would say, Turned out nice again