Re: Lessons from Leigh and Bradford, 2016 : Tue Jan 03, 2017 3:47 pm  

Mild Rover wrote:

In theory it shouldn't matter much, as it is where you trained rather than where you where born, as far as the non-fed rule goes. It is on somewhat shaky legal ground though. IIRC Simon Finnigan and the Henderson brothers who were born in the UK, but grew up and learned the game in in Australia got exemptions.

While there is precedent, Clark would need an exemption.

Gotcha. Didn't know that detail, thanks.

Re: Lessons from Leigh and Bradford, 2016 : Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:40 am  

One decision that seems to have not been underlined on this thread, was the suspension of Albert Kelly on the morning of the qualifier against Leigh. I remember Jukesy saying what a lift it gave the team. Surely he could have been disciplined after such a vital match?

Re: Lessons from Leigh and Bradford, 2016 : Wed Jan 04, 2017 9:58 am  

CHEADLE LEYTHER wrote:

One decision that seems to have not been underlined on this thread, was the suspension of Albert Kelly on the morning of the qualifier against Leigh. I remember Jukesy saying what a lift it gave the team. Surely he could have been disciplined after such a vital match?

I question your moral judgement.

In any case you do not know Kelly's mental state and whether he would have been fit to play anyway.

[Mild Rover]

Re: Lessons from Leigh and Bradford, 2016 : Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:48 am  

CHEADLE LEYTHER wrote:

One decision that seems to have not been underlined on this thread, was the suspension of Albert Kelly on the morning of the qualifier against Leigh. I remember Jukesy saying what a lift it gave the team. Surely he could have been disciplined after such a vital match?

Much as he was very, very good in 2015, by this point it is his initial signing that (with hindsight) seems the more questionable decision.

He was done at Rovers by the Leigh game, and didn't play for us again.

Because we went down by such a fine margin, there are any number of decisions you can look back at and say that could have been the difference. Lessons from Hull KR, 2016 could have its own thread. If we win promotion, I expect it will. In the short-term though the focus has to be on adapting to the Championship, trying to emulate what Leigh did last year and avoid what has befallen Bradford.

Re: Lessons from Leigh and Bradford, 2016 : Wed Jan 04, 2017 3:36 pm  

Mild Rover wrote:

Much as he was very, very good in 2015, by this point it is his initial signing that (with hindsight) seems the more questionable decision.

He was done at Rovers by the Leigh game, and didn't play for us again.

Because we went down by such a fine margin, there are any number of decisions you can look back at and say that could have been the difference. Lessons from Hull KR, 2016 could have its own thread. If we win promotion, I expect it will. In the short-term though the focus has to be on adapting to the Championship, trying to emulate what Leigh did last year and avoid what has befallen Bradford.

Correct,well said.

Re: Lessons from Leigh and Bradford, 2016 : Wed Jan 04, 2017 3:50 pm  

a few things fell into place for leigh last year ie players available at the right time, run of the ball , while their offence was enough their defence was shocking at times but they got away with it just

Re: Lessons from Leigh and Bradford, 2016 : Wed Jan 04, 2017 4:06 pm  

rover 2000 wrote:

a few things fell into place for leigh last year ie players available at the right time, run of the ball , while their offence was enough their defence was shocking at times but they got away with it just

Then it shows what you will be up against.

Also remember that when new players come in,it can take time to get used to set plays and structure and to gel,not easy when you've got the middle 8s to contend with as well.

I'll tell you now, if you don't rotate your squad properly, and if you have any injuries to key players come the middle 8s, you've no chance of promotion.

If you think Leigh was lucky to get promoted, you need to pay a visit to specsavers.

Re: Lessons from Leigh and Bradford, 2016 : Wed Jan 04, 2017 4:15 pm  

I said their defence was shocking at times things fell into place for them that's my opinion just did enough in attack cannot see the word lucky in my last post

Re: Lessons from Leigh and Bradford, 2016 : Wed Jan 04, 2017 4:33 pm  

rover 2000 wrote:

I said their defence was shocking at times things fell into place for them that's my opinion just did enough in attack cannot see the word lucky in my last post

Quite, but the job was done in the games you're alluding to(which i assume was them on tv) before our defense went poor.

When you say things fell into place, other than the Salford game when yes i thought we rode our luck a bit in that one,but our defense was pretty good as well,what else are you alluding to?

[Bullseye]

Re: Lessons from Leigh and Bradford, 2016 : Wed Jan 04, 2017 4:59 pm  

Leigh learnt the lesson of 2015 and peaked at the right time when it mattered in 2016. They also made sure they had cash available and cap space available at the business end of the season too.