Re: Finances : Tue Nov 22, 2016 10:32 pm  

Dave K. wrote:

Well Craig, I'm a rugby fan as well as a Hull fan, so all rugby interests me, even clubs finances, which are massivly important for teams and the game if it is to grow, also boring on the Hull forum, far too positive, although as I know being a Hull fan for many years it won't last, good word Quantifying.

massivly . perfect grammar always. like you dave a bit bored

Re: Finances : Tue Nov 22, 2016 10:34 pm  

Dave K. wrote:

Well Craig, I'm a rugby fan as well as a Hull fan, so all rugby interests me, even clubs finances, which are massivly important for teams and the game if it is to grow, also boring on the Hull forum, far too positive, although as I know being a Hull fan for many years it won't last, good word Quantifying.

Cheers,that makes sense,I read the bradford saga on their forum without commenting but felt for the fans.both our teams have gone pop, recently enough to have sympathy for these things.both seem in stable times albeit in different leagues. As I said anything could happen this coming season

Re: Finances : Tue Nov 22, 2016 10:34 pm  

Hessle rover wrote:

Absolutely it was needed. How could you make profit on a ground being open 14/15 times a year. Rovers made 15 thousand profit before our horror show last year, and with a million pound less in our coffers, these events are even more needed before we 'hopefully' go up next year.

Profit in the year you got to Wembley, not really a suprise, agree with it all, except the last line or do I, can't decide, might miss you all a bit next year.

Re: Finances : Tue Nov 22, 2016 10:38 pm  

craig hkr wrote:

Cheers,that makes sense,I read the bradford saga on their forum without commenting but felt for the fans.both our teams have gone pop, recently enough to have sympathy for these things.both seem in stable times albeit in different leagues. As I said anything could happen this coming season

What's gone on at Bradford is shocking, how they have gone from the best team in the league to were they are now, in a relatively short space of time is hard to believe, the recent England team had 5/6 Bradford junior players or ex players.

I honestly believe if Pearson hadn't bought us, there was a real chance we could have gone the same way as Bradford.

Maybe the biggest year in 20 years for Rovers, as if you don't come up I'd be worried as Toulouse will grow and money bags Toronto are likely to be in the championship.

Re: Finances : Tue Nov 22, 2016 10:40 pm  

Dave K. wrote:

Profit in the year you got to Wembley, not really a suprise, agree with it all, except the last line or do I, can't decide, might miss you all a bit next year.

Give over Dave. I know you won't agree on here, but we have a symbiotic relationship. You will miss us.
As for next year. No one is talking about us unlike they did for Leigh last year, and I prefer it. That alone will be the teams undoing in the bottom four next year. Silent assassin!

Re: Finances : Tue Nov 22, 2016 10:43 pm  

Hessle rover wrote:

Give over Dave. I know you won't agree on here, but we have a symbiotic relationship. You will miss us.
As for next year. No one is talking about us unlike they did for Leigh last year, and I prefer it. That alone will be the teams undoing in the bottom four next year. Silent assassin!

You can tell you live in West Hull, using words like symbiotic and I definitely didn't just google it to check what it meant.

Re: Finances : Tue Nov 22, 2016 10:48 pm  

Dave K. wrote:

You can tell you live in West Hull, using words like symbiotic and I definitely didn't just google it to check what it meant.

Technically speaking, I don't live in West Hull, but the 'East' Riding of Yorkshire.

Re: Finances : Wed Nov 23, 2016 8:07 am  

Dave K. wrote:

What's gone on at Bradford is shocking, how they have gone from the best team in the league to were they are now, in a relatively short space of time is hard to believe, the recent England team had 5/6 Bradford junior players or ex players.

I honestly believe if Pearson hadn't bought us, there was a real chance we could have gone the same way as Bradford.

Maybe the biggest year in 20 years for Rovers, as if you don't come up I'd be worried as Toulouse will grow and money bags Toronto are likely to be in the championship.

Bradford's current state is down to consistently poor off-field management over the last 15 years with money being squandered on large contracts for players that were not worth the money being paid as well as bizarre player recruitment. But honestly, if you don't get back up on the first time of asking, then it's likely you'll be down in the Championship for quite some time. Though a lot of that will depend greatly on your coach.

I mean, I can only give you the view's of a Bradford fan down in this division. We came down, put together a decent squad (but the weak link I felt was the coach, especially his refusal to rotate the massive squad we had which lead to some of our better players being burned out come the business end of the season as well as his stance that "not all the games mattered"), we had a wave of optimism on the back of the new owner who, although many of the Bradford fanbase have derided him, has never actually lied to the fans the way previous owners have. He said it would be hard and that the club needed the fans to put their hands in their pockets to keep the club going.

However, following the loss in the MPG the following season was not as buoyant as the previous. Certainly the players didn't look as motivated (again, blame has to go to the coach for that one) and really many of them looked like they were just going through the motions.

But still, best of luck for 2017, hopefully the Bulls will have a new owner with the funds to actually back the team and we'll be in the mix with you.

Re: Finances : Wed Nov 23, 2016 8:22 am  

ComeOnYouUll wrote:

You might need some sort of grammar checker, cp1.

[Mild Rover]

Re: Finances : Wed Nov 23, 2016 8:30 am  

Dave K. wrote:

What's gone on at Bradford is shocking, how they have gone from the best team in the league to were they are now, in a relatively short space of time is hard to believe, the recent England team had 5/6 Bradford junior players or ex players.

I honestly believe if Pearson hadn't bought us, there was a real chance we could have gone the same way as Bradford.

Maybe the biggest year in 20 years for Rovers, as if you don't come up I'd be worried as Toulouse will grow and money bags Toronto are likely to be in the championship.

Bradford are a cautionary tale for all clubs. I'd like to think if we don't get back up in the next couple of seasons or so, we could have a managed downsizing and be a stable Championship team - in a hand to mouth sort of way. It'd be tough adjusting expectations though, and the mortgage on the new stand would be a concern (thanks Licensing system and your focus on longer-term infrastructure investment! Still at least binning you allowed the RFL to save Bradford).

We're on an emotional spike now, but I'm glad the club have called it that, because it is fragile and we won't bounce back emotionally like this twice, if it dissipates.

Even if we get back up quickly, we'll face the same old challenges. But, as well as being annoying, Hull's progress over the last couple of seasons is kind of inspiring, and challenged a lot of the conventional wisdom on how to achieve success in SL. Easier to acknowledge than replicate, of course. It'll be interesting to see whether it is sustained over a few seasons, or not.