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Re: Rovers v Cas Thu Apr 08, 2021 10:45 am  
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You couldn't help it could you? You had to mention it, you wouldn't let it lie. Jamie "Bloody" Sandy.

We're incapable of playing rugby league for a full eighty minutes so we've got little to no chance.

No doubt come Friday, Mental Girlfriend Syndrome will kick in and then the belief kills you.


It was an innocent association Sandro honestly,

I was actually at this final, and remembering a drunken rhyme made up on the way back home on train, by our group, “ he shot, he missed, he must be fxxxxxg pxxxxd Dorothy Dorothy” was sang with great gusto.

Knock Cas out, hopefully we win, then the draw gets even more interesting. :D
Re: Rovers v Cas Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:02 pm  
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I was also at this final, to say the young Sandro was devastated is a slight understatement, a family weekend away truly ruined!

My Dad took me to the 1985 final which will be a memory I'll always hold, I can remember one poor lass on our Pearson's coach trip crying more or less all the way home!
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet depreciate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground. They want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters. This struggle may be a moral one; or it may be a physical one; or it may be both moral and physical; but it must be a struggle.

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Re: Rovers v Cas Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:21 pm  
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[quote="Riderofthepalehorse"]It was an innocent association Sandro honestly,

I was actually at this final, and remembering a drunken rhyme made up on the way back home on train, by our group, “ he shot, he missed, he must be fxxxxxg pxxxxd Dorothy Dorothy” was sang with great gusto.

Not made up, copied from an earlier Rovers classic from Wembley 1980(we will mention THAT one) He kicks, he missed, he must be f*****g P****d, of course relating to Sammy Lloyd. Sang with gusto by many a Rovers fan in many pubs, along with Oh Sammy Sammy, Sammy Sammy Sammy Sammy S***ho**se Lloyd. Great kicker, but not on that day, thankfully.
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Re: Rovers v Cas Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:25 pm  
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[quote="Old Timer No 4"]

No problem Old Timer, glad I’ve woke you all up :D
Re: Rovers v Cas Thu Apr 08, 2021 1:47 pm  
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[quote="Riderofthepalehorse"]No problem Old Timer, glad I’ve woke you all up :


Much appreciated. Someone needed too..Not been able to go to our own ground for what seems forever seems to have set apathy in on this forum. It's just not the same as being there and having a laugh with your mates and celebrating a win(whenever that happens) and a meltdown when they don't..,But we keep going and live in hope. RRTR.
Re: Rovers v Cas Fri Apr 09, 2021 1:38 pm  

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I’ve got a lot of respect for and faith in Tony Smith.

However, I do find it very hard to feel anything better than ambivalence about the patience mantra.
https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... al-5272037

Cas are cited as an example of a gradual turnaround but went from 12th and 20 points in 2013 to 4th and 36 points in 2014.

We’ve had strategies that stressed patience for the best part of a decade, excepting the couple of seasons when we had to show some urgency and actually achieved our on-field goals (‘17 and ‘18). I appreciate the need for hard work and know that there are no easy answers. But I think that communication based around a real and immediate drive for improvement would help change some of those perceptions he talks about. ‘Patience’, just like the sodding 5-year plan, feels now too much like a passive acceptance of crap and low expectations.

Taken too far patience just buys the need for ever greater patience. There’s no karmic pay-off (not that I think TS thinks there is, he’s not daft).
'Thus I am tormented by my curiosity and humbled by my ignorance.' from History of an Old Bramin, The New York Mirror (A Weekly Journal Devoted to Literature and the Fine Arts), February 16th 1833.
Re: Rovers v Cas Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:50 pm  

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Mild Rover wrote:
I’ve got a lot of respect for and faith in Tony Smith.

However, I do find it very hard to feel anything better than ambivalence about the patience mantra.
https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... al-5272037

Cas are cited as an example of a gradual turnaround but went from 12th and 20 points in 2013 to 4th and 36 points in 2014.

We’ve had strategies that stressed patience for the best part of a decade, excepting the couple of seasons when we had to show some urgency and actually achieved our on-field goals (‘17 and ‘18). I appreciate the need for hard work and know that there are no easy answers. But I think that communication based around a real and immediate drive for improvement would help change some of those perceptions he talks about. ‘Patience’, just like the sodding 5-year plan, feels now too much like a passive acceptance of crap and low expectations.

Taken too far patience just buys the need for ever greater patience. There’s no karmic pay-off (not that I think TS thinks there is, he’s not daft).


He has been unlucky with player injuries but has also made several pretty average signings.What we dont know is whether thats linked to available funds
Re: Rovers v Cas Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:57 pm  

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He has been unlucky with player injuries but has also made several pretty average signings.What we dont know is whether thats linked to available funds


It’s more what he’s saying than what he’s done. I believe/hope that he is trying to solve our problems with utmost urgency. I worry that quotes like those in the article linked send the opposite message and that might hinder those efforts.

For me, he gets a pass for last season. The career-ending and life-changing injury to Mose Masoe and Mitch Garbutt’s struggles to get on the pitch meant an otherwise merely weak squad became completely uncompetitive. There was something wrong with the squad that lost to London twice and did the usual in golden point against Salford in 2019 - the echoes of 2016, in the ways we would find a way to lose were worrying. So all change for 2020, bin-off Joel Tomkins et al. and sign some hungry youngsters and projects from the Championship. I’m going to try very hard to avoid the x wins from y wins argument, including last year’s results. We do need to improve a bit from that very low base though.

Hopefully Takairangi, Vete and Sims will offer good value over the course of the season.

Nobody is asking for Rome in a day. I don’t think anybody is even asking for Rome. We aren’t a rich club. But neither are Cas, afaik, and we’ve a 14 point start with the bookies tonight.
'Thus I am tormented by my curiosity and humbled by my ignorance.' from History of an Old Bramin, The New York Mirror (A Weekly Journal Devoted to Literature and the Fine Arts), February 16th 1833.
Re: Rovers v Cas Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:09 pm  
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Classic MGS.
If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet depreciate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground. They want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters. This struggle may be a moral one; or it may be a physical one; or it may be both moral and physical; but it must be a struggle.

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