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Re: England-France : Fri Jun 11, 2010 8:18 am  
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No, that's still one international


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You’ll see players pulling out of international fixtures when ever they’re played- it is indeed a tough old season.


Indeed, but rarely are countries hit by withdrawls that hurt as much as Frances, we know they are going to have alot of their topline players out and I feel the game would be an exellent chance for McNamara to look at someone like Aaron Murphy or Ben Harrison in the camp with the other lads.

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France gain a place in the international calendar from it; their only fixture against Big Three opposition this year


Cant argue with this point.


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Flying those guys over makes an important point about the prestige of the international game.


Cant really pull the prestige card when the game is being held in a small town with no railway station.

It is also deemed so prestigious that it cant even have its own day in the RL calender

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I can’t agree that a mid season fixture doesn’t aid preparation for an end of season series. The players get to know each other’s games and the coaches get to see what they’re working with but the main point here is that it’s not all about preparing England for the inevitable thrashing against Australia. In that regard, there’s an element of urinating in the wind there what ever we’re doing with the England team. Playing these games- however one sided their outcome may be- helps to develop an international programme. This is essential for the future growth of the game in my view.


I imagine both coaches will take things out of the camps. Bobby is (albeit hand forced in some ways) having a look at a few different players and I commned him for that. What will Steve McNamara take from seeing the same old faces in camp as they approch a game they are expected to win by plenty?

I agree with developing an International calender too. I just feel that this game and its obvious result is slowly turning people off, this game will show the casual International fan that on the face of things France have not improved in the years Catalans have been in SL.

That may or may not be true, but i think in the long term 60 point beatings will not help this sport develop an International calender as we are often scared of blow out scores.

Ultimatley, back to my original post I never said this game should be done away with and I am undecided as to what would be better preperation for both sides. (i.e Wales V France and England V SuperLeague Aussies I dont have the answers. I just dont think this fixture will last if the onesided nature of the contests continues.
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Re: England-France : Fri Jun 11, 2010 4:24 pm  
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Re: England-France : Fri Jun 11, 2010 6:52 pm  
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More pre-match stuff online

Booh! L'uddy English, get off this FRENCH board.
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More pre-match stuff online

Booh! L'uddy English, get off this FRENCH board.
Que je dis.
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Re: England-France : Fri Jun 11, 2010 10:09 pm  
Have you not noticed that it's traditional for the English to want to manufacture a win after their customary beating at the hands of Australia.

Listen to them drool after each WCC win "this proves that Super League at the top level is a match for the NRL".

After this game we will hear them saying that they are going in the right direction and making progress.

I'll make a prediction that you can all beat me with if it's wrong, England will get caned by both Australia & New Zealand in the 4 Nations and I wouldn't be surprised if PNG also beat them.

The English have no style of their own and never will whilst they constantly employ Aussie coaches (Smith) and Aussie clones (Macca). You can't beat Aus or NZ at their own game.

France also need to develop their own style and I believe they will under Bobbie & Stuart Wilkinson.
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Re: England-France : Sat Jun 12, 2010 5:24 pm  
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Pelo & Duport are out, Barthau to join squad

Taking the money and off to Montpellier rugby union?
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Re: England-France : Sat Jun 12, 2010 7:58 pm  
Attendance 5,698.
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Re: England-France : Sun Jun 13, 2010 6:05 am  
pathetic attendance for a totally pointless match as usual - let the england team play an annual match against a SL ANZAC team instead and leave Les Bleus for the other home nations to mess about with.
On a more positive note,the France v England Academy at Villeneuve was well attended although the french lads were generally outplayed by their more 'cultured' opponents,they put up a good fight.MOM for me was the FB Matthew Russell from Wigan
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Re: England-France : Sun Jun 13, 2010 8:35 am  
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pathetic attendance for a totally pointless match as usual - let the england team play an annual match against a SL ANZAC team instead blah blah blah

5-6k is a decent turnout for a fixture that clashes with a SL round, in no way pathetic.
A SL ANZAC game would be even more pointless, wouldn't develop competition for England and why would any ANZAC player bother to show up or coach that match?

By all means expand it to a Wales/France/England triplet, France deffo needs to play the other home nations more - but then they will in this summer's European Cup.

Unless a credible national side emerges in the NH to play England we will continue to see them struggling to catch up with NZ/Oz. It is in England's best interest to help France develop.
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Re: England-France : Sun Jun 13, 2010 9:15 am  
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Unless a credible national side emerges in the NH to play England we will continue to see them struggling to catch up with NZ/Oz. It is in England's best interest to help France develop.

Absolutely bang on the banana there
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