[Wheels]

: Sat Aug 22, 2009 1:49 pm  

Please can we keep the Celtic deportation discussion in here please.

Anymore new threads and people will be taking a break from posting.

Cheers, Wheels.

: Sat Aug 22, 2009 8:45 pm  

The Border Agency does seem to love refusing Rugby League players from plying their trade. Bet Al Quaeda are pissing themselves... http://newslite.tv/2009/08/03/illegal-immigrant-sneaks-into.html

The Border Agency does seem to love refusing Rugby League players from plying their trade. Bet Al Quaeda are pissing themselves... http://newslite.tv/2009/08/03/illegal-immigrant-sneaks-into.html

: Sat Aug 22, 2009 9:08 pm  

LOL - so expect some Serbian Forwards, Albanian Backs & a couple of Roumanian touch Judges. Couldnt make it up could you?

: Sat Aug 22, 2009 9:34 pm  

I'll take the Romanian officials over that french goon Halibut any day of the week.

: Sat Aug 22, 2009 10:08 pm  

the club are responsible for checking that all their employees are legally entitled to work in this country..this time they either were slack or just plain incompetent. whichever way crusaders should be immediately relieved of their super league status and a club properly worthy of the status be promoted for the start of next season.

: Sun Aug 23, 2009 9:11 am  

crow,

No I think we'll follow proper procedure instead.

Which of the teams we beat in NL1 would you give our place to?

Widnes? Naaah, hammered them.
Halifax? Remember last time they were in? What did they win? 2 matches?
Leigh? Didn't exactly cover themselves in glory last time either.

: Sun Aug 23, 2009 4:14 pm  

Grendel wrote:

crow,

No I think we'll follow proper procedure instead.

Which of the teams we beat in NL1 would you give our place to?

Widnes? Naaah, hammered them.
Halifax? Remember last time they were in? What did they win? 2 matches?
Leigh? Didn't exactly cover themselves in glory last time either.

With all due respect, it is now a proven fact that the Celtic Crusaders played 6 ineligible players in order to achieve this.

Not something you want to be shouting form the roof tops about that is it?

: Sun Aug 23, 2009 5:37 pm  

Clearly they WERE eligible to play. Because they did.

But if you need to go digging for adminstrative errors to claim victory, fill yer boots.

: Sun Aug 23, 2009 6:18 pm  

Grendel wrote:

crow,

No I think we'll follow proper procedure instead.

Which of the teams we beat in NL1 would you give our place to?

Widnes? Naaah, hammered them.
Halifax? Remember last time they were in? What did they win? 2 matches?
Leigh? Didn't exactly cover themselves in glory last time either.

I think we won many more matches then two in the 8 years we were in SL. We had one very very bad season when we went down.

: Sun Aug 23, 2009 6:38 pm  

Grendel wrote: Clearly they WERE eligible to play. Because they did. No they weren't. This is why they have now been deported. Celtic have fielded ineligible players for the whole period of their stay in NL1 & NL2. This is a statement of fact and is irrefutable. Grendel wrote: But if you need to go digging for adminstrative errors to claim victory, fill yer boots. I'm not the one claiming victory here, that was you. What Celtic have done, by fielding these players - knowingly or otherwise - has more significant ramifications than just a few games against Widnes. I think you'll also find that this may not be just a case of 'administrative errors'. UKBA wrote: the club remains the subject of investigation by the Border Agency which has already concluded that deception was used in bringing the players into the country. http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/aug/18/celtic-crusaders-australians-visas All this talk of blaming UKBA for changing the rules for this situation just doesn't wash. The rules on working holiday visas were changed as far back as 2005. All that happened at the end of last season was a new points system was introduced. All clubs had a meeting with the UKBA in Manchester about this last year, therefore all should have been well aware of the situation. Even the UKBA cannot change the rules and then prosecute retrospectively. That, in itself, is illegal. Therefore the contracts of the six players involved must not have been adequate for those seasons. As the UKBA quote suggests, this situation is far from over. The investigation is still ongoing and we'll soon find out just how culpable, or not, the Celtic Crusaders are in all this.

Grendel wrote: Clearly they WERE eligible to play. Because they did. No they weren't. This is why they have now been deported. Celtic have fielded ineligible players for the whole period of their stay in NL1 & NL2. This is a statement of fact and is irrefutable. Grendel wrote: But if you need to go digging for adminstrative errors to claim victory, fill yer boots. I'm not the one claiming victory here, that was you. What Celtic have done, by fielding these players - knowingly or otherwise - has more significant ramifications than just a few games against Widnes. I think you'll also find that this may not be just a case of 'administrative errors'. UKBA wrote: the club remains the subject of investigation by the Border Agency which has already concluded that deception was used in bringing the players into the country. http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/aug/18/celtic-crusaders-australians-visas All this talk of blaming UKBA for changing the rules for this situation just doesn't wash. The rules on working holiday visas were changed as far back as 2005. All that happened at the end of last season was a new points system was introduced. All clubs had a meeting with the UKBA in Manchester about this last year, therefore all should have been well aware of the situation. Even the UKBA cannot change the rules and then prosecute retrospectively. That, in itself, is illegal. Therefore the contracts of the six players involved must not have been adequate for those seasons. As the UKBA quote suggests, this situation is far from over. The investigation is still ongoing and we'll soon find out just how culpable, or not, the Celtic Crusaders are in all this.