Re: Gareth Thomas : Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:36 am  

Spongolium wrote:

I believe loydd white is on a duel contract. He is under 21 i think too. Jordan James was sent there for a conditioning stint. I think the clubs have something between them regarding the rules to allow players up and down.

This is taken from the clubs website
Wales' newest professional side completed the triple loan deal of Ben Flower, Jordan James and Anthony Blackwood
Crusaders and Wales stars Lloyd White, Lewis Mills, Gil Dudson and Lee Williams are also set to play for the Scorpions under the dual registration

Looking at this i do not think Noble thinks James is good enough for SL. When Brian came to Wigan the first 2 props to leave were Jordan James and Oliver Wilks. So this is the second time he has moved Jordan on within a month or two of taking over.

And i think your right about a link between the clubs regarding players this could be down to Harris being the head coach for Wales and assistant coach for the Crusaders.

Re: Gareth Thomas : Thu Mar 11, 2010 11:35 am  

headhunter wrote:

You really, really need to watch the NRL or State of Origin before constantly coming out with stuff like this. It just makes people think you don't know what you are talking about, which is a shame because the rest of your post was spot on.

I do beleive that arguably the French league is the most brutal as the rivalries go deeper than just rugby. The different areas of france hate each other and this is shown thru there rugby teams.

Also toulose(the team ALf played for) played a full blown match on every wednesday, 1st team v 2nd/reserve/senior academy boys and as people who have played rugby know these games are extremely tough playing players after your shirt.!

Re: Gareth Thomas : Thu Mar 11, 2010 1:17 pm  

garethtaylor15 wrote:

I do beleive that arguably the French league is the most brutal as the rivalries go deeper than just rugby. The different areas of france hate each other and this is shown thru there rugby teams.

Also toulose(the team ALf played for) played a full blown match on every wednesday, 1st team v 2nd/reserve/senior academy boys and as people who have played rugby know these games are extremely tough playing players after your shirt.!

doesn't compare to nrl sorry the impact in nrl is much greater an much more frequent and besides if your talking ru rivalry you gotta be looking at the curry cup

Re: Gareth Thomas : Thu Mar 11, 2010 1:21 pm  

headhunter wrote:

Yeah, of course. I was getting mixed up with last weekend

Shame on you! I take it your not going then

Re: Gareth Thomas : Thu Mar 11, 2010 2:53 pm  

chubbs1981 wrote:

doesn't compare to nrl sorry the impact in nrl is much greater an much more frequent and besides if your talking ru rivalry you gotta be looking at the curry cup

Impact.? thats just part of the game.! In france they go beyond the game fighting, eye gouging the works. i even recall alfie having to drag a player out of the crowd at toulose as he was fighting with a spectator(not alfie his team mate trevor brennan i beleive)

Re: Gareth Thomas : Thu Mar 11, 2010 3:21 pm  

General thuggery and the brutality of the competition not linked. Union is not as brutal as league end of story and anyone who says so needs to play both in the forwards to fine out

Re: Gareth Thomas : Thu Mar 11, 2010 4:21 pm  

garethtaylor15 wrote:

Impact.? thats just part of the game.! In france they go beyond the game fighting, eye gouging the works. i even recall alfie having to drag a player out of the crowd at toulose as he was fighting with a spectator(not alfie his team mate trevor brennan i beleive)

People, especially Union apologists, confuse intensity with niggly and thuggish play. I've played against teams that have eye gouged, spat, stamped on players in the tackle, punched players on the ground etc, and I've played with players that also do that kind of thing. It happens all the time at amateur level. That doesn't mean that the game is more intense than pro level. Anyone can do things like that. Getting stamped on in a ruck is nothing compared to the intensity of a league match, and it's just unpleasant and leads to injuries rather than two teams raising the bar and going at each other. For me, this just highlights the difference between the two sports. If you meant the French league is brutal as in dirty, then there are plenty of amateur RL and probably Union competitions that are a lot more 'brutal' in that respect. And if you meant in terms of the intensity of the match, then pro RL competitions are far more brutal, and are much, much harder to play in.

chubbs1981 wrote:

headhunter wrote:

Yeah, of course. I was getting mixed up with last weekend

Shame on you! I take it your not going then

No, can barely afford to get to Wrexham for the Crusaders games let alone Doncaster

Re: Gareth Thomas : Thu Mar 11, 2010 7:33 pm  

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Re: Gareth Thomas : Thu Mar 11, 2010 9:45 pm  

headhunter wrote:

People, especially Union apologists, confuse intensity with niggly and thuggish play. I've played against teams that have eye gouged, spat, stamped on players in the tackle, punched players on the ground etc, and I've played with players that also do that kind of thing. It happens all the time at amateur level. That doesn't mean that the game is more intense than pro level. Anyone can do things like that. Getting stamped on in a ruck is nothing compared to the intensity of a league match, and it's just unpleasant and leads to injuries rather than two teams raising the bar and going at each other. For me, this just highlights the difference between the two sports. If you meant the French league is brutal as in dirty, then there are plenty of amateur RL and probably Union competitions that are a lot more 'brutal' in that respect. And if you meant in terms of the intensity of the match, then pro RL competitions are far more brutal, and are much, much harder to play in.
No, can barely afford to get to Wrexham for the Crusaders games let alone Doncaster

I would say both in french league the games are intense, physical and down right dirty(honestly cant think of any pro league as diryt to be honest, yeah amateur up the valleys here in south wales is bad enough, i should know. The regions hate each other. And i did say arguably.! all you lot do is bang on about NRL.
I have the privelege of enjoying both sports.

All i am trying to say is that ALF has seen everything in his career and bought the T shirt... nothing will faze him..!

Re: Gareth Thomas : Fri Mar 12, 2010 3:17 pm  

He's played in Bridgend v Cardiff and Ospreys v Cardiff Blues as well as Wales v England matches so he should be used to the dirty sh* t.