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Re: IR 35 : Mon Apr 17, 2017 6:11 am  
Dally wrote:
I would guess because as the government ultimately funds the employers they will det compliance. I would imagine that the government after seeing their success will feel confident in going after others.

You ever dealt with HMRC?
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Re: IR 35 : Mon Apr 17, 2017 7:47 am  
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You ever dealt with HMRC?


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Re: IR 35 : Mon Apr 17, 2017 8:30 am  
Dally wrote:
Yes.

As the director of a LTD company, within the last 3 years?
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Re: IR 35 : Mon Apr 17, 2017 8:32 am  
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As the director of a LTD company, within the last 3 years?

Every day.
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Re: IR 35 : Mon Apr 17, 2017 8:36 am  
Dally wrote:
Every day.

So, given your comments, you don't take dividends, declare all earnings in full (paying appropriate NI) and no expenses offsets?
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Re: IR 35 : Mon Apr 17, 2017 8:51 am  
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So, given your comments, you don't take dividends, declare all earnings in full (paying appropriate NI) and no expenses offsets?

All those things are legitimate (provided for example, that dividends are properly declared) other than if the company is a PSC which is effectively a sham intermediary within what would otherwise be considered an employment relationship.
You have a problem in your dealings with HMRC - what is the nature of the problem?
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Re: IR 35 : Mon Apr 17, 2017 8:56 am  
Dally wrote:
All those things are legitimate (provided for example, that dividends are properly declared) other than if the company is a PSC which is effectively a sham intermediary within what would otherwise be considered an employment relationship.
You have a problem in your dealings with HMRC - what is the nature of the problem?

I have no HMRC issues at the moment, but on the next contract, as D_R said, agencies are pushing people towards Umbrella Companies. But, hey, it's happened now so just make the best of it.
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Re: IR 35 : Mon Apr 17, 2017 8:57 am  
The legislation has been in place along time. The use of umbrella companies to me suggests sham.
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Re: IR 35 : Mon Apr 17, 2017 9:05 am  
Umbrella Companies are just an extra expense, a big changes have only recently come in (away frome home expenses etc.)
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Re: IR 35 : Mon Apr 17, 2017 9:47 am  
In the old days as director you used to be able to pay yourself a dividend instead of PAYE which provided quite a saving for both you and company - HMRC seem to have clamped down on this these days
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