FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!

   WWW.RLFANS.COM • View topic - Latest on NM
TRB 
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach10926
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 18 200519 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
16th Dec 21 22:5121st Feb 19 13:49LINK
Milestone Posts
10000
15000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Wacky Field
Signature
"Wakefields Sporting Crusader"

For the latest details on the Stadium for Wakefield campaign, log onto //www.swag-online.co.uk

For the latest details on the Supporters Trust, log onto //wakefield.rlfans.com

Latest on NM : Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:56 pm  
Update from 8th October:
One of our colleagues attended the WMDC Cabinet Meeting in Ossett this week. The meeting was attended by around a dozen Wakefield supporters, anxious to find out the latest from WMDC regarding the recent Planning Application from Yorkcourt / Henry Boot regarding the proposed Kitwave facility at Newmarket

The question was asked during the Cabinet meeting, however Cllr Box refused to answer, other than suggesting that the council and club were in ‘sensitive negotiations’, and instead invited those interested to gather after the meeting and that the Head of Planning, Neil Rodgers, would be able to answer the questions raised.
A number of questions were asked of Neil, most of which he could easily answer. However, he mentioned that they were dealing with ‘Trusts’ in the plural, to which we sought clarification and he confirmed that there were more than one Trust and he is in talks with them. He was also asked if Sir Rodney Walker was involved, to which he refused to say one way or other.
Form the discussion it would appear that the issue between the initial Outline Planning Application Public Inquiry and the subsequent LDF (Local Development Framework) Public Inquiry is the area in which the council is most uncomfortable in that there is a belief that Yorkcourt can work within the LDF without the need for the OPP. We would note that the fact that both were running around the same time was known to both Government officers conducting the relevant Inquiries and both not only made reference to the other but also took these facts into account in their deliberations.
Neil Rodgers then went on to say that the pending decision was contentious and the council would seek independent legal advice. It was then pointed out that the council had sought ‘Legal Advice’ in relation to whether to consider the Newcold site as being outside of the catchment of the Unilateral Undertaking (Section 106 agreement) and that despite Freedom of Information requests they had been unable to provide evidence of any such ‘Advice’ having been taken.
Neil was then asked outright for a straight ‘yes’ or ‘no’ answer - is there a chance of the Newcold development going back into the contribution area. He categorically said no chance whatsoever!!
All of this is also now made more complicated still by the plans for HS2 and when this was mentioned he said that although things were still vague, it is possible that it could cut through the site and make it impossible to leave enough land ever to develop so as to achieve the 60000 total!
Other things mentioned was that even though they have this recent letter from Gateleys they are still open to giving Yorkcourt planning for houses (on the proposed Stadium site) in order to help them gather more money to contribute towards a Community Stadium.
Thereafter it appeared as though he just wanted to blame the Inspector and the Government and a poor 106 as the reason for the non-delivery of the Community Stadium.

The above is just a potted version of the discussion. It does however confirm that it would appear that the council are reluctant to turn down the current Planning Application, although a formal decision can only be made by the Planning Committee themselves.
At the meeting we were also advised of something we had heard before, but never able to verify, which is that Yorkcourt were involved in the delivery of the Manchester Arena – we would appreciate someone confirming this if they have any knowledge or evidence of it.
lad13 
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach1733No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
May 16 200519 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
22nd Dec 21 09:4221st Dec 21 19:16LINK
Milestone Posts
1000
2500
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
on the way to armarillo
Signature
I'm still laughing at Cas!!!

Re: Latest on NM : Tue Oct 09, 2018 9:03 pm  
Also to add - he said Manni was keen to sell bv but as regards to redevelopment any funds from wmdc could not be directly to any private business - ie trinity or 88m and suggested that some kind of plan to buy the ground & wmdc to loan the stadium trust funds would be an idea to be discussed. Added that the c700k suggested yc pay would be a pro rata payment basis from the kitwave development only - butvwasnt hopeful of this. Took a view that yc would only have to start a stadium build when the units etc have a 60% occupancy. Confirmed as above that the newcold fridge was outside any footage for the trigger points.
RankPostsTeam
Club Captain819No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 26 20186 years214th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
22nd Apr 24 21:2821st Apr 24 15:55LINK
Milestone Posts
500
1000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Latest on NM : Tue Oct 09, 2018 9:46 pm  
TRB wrote:
Update from 8th October:
One of our colleagues attended the WMDC Cabinet Meeting in Ossett this week. The meeting was attended by around a dozen Wakefield supporters, anxious to find out the latest from WMDC regarding the recent Planning Application from Yorkcourt / Henry Boot regarding the proposed Kitwave facility at Newmarket

The question was asked during the Cabinet meeting, however Cllr Box refused to answer, other than suggesting that the council and club were in ‘sensitive negotiations’, and instead invited those interested to gather after the meeting and that the Head of Planning, Neil Rodgers, would be able to answer the questions raised.
A number of questions were asked of Neil, most of which he could easily answer. However, he mentioned that they were dealing with ‘Trusts’ in the plural, to which we sought clarification and he confirmed that there were more than one Trust and he is in talks with them. He was also asked if Sir Rodney Walker was involved, to which he refused to say one way or other.
Form the discussion it would appear that the issue between the initial Outline Planning Application Public Inquiry and the subsequent LDF (Local Development Framework) Public Inquiry is the area in which the council is most uncomfortable in that there is a belief that Yorkcourt can work within the LDF without the need for the OPP. We would note that the fact that both were running around the same time was known to both Government officers conducting the relevant Inquiries and both not only made reference to the other but also took these facts into account in their deliberations.
Neil Rodgers then went on to say that the pending decision was contentious and the council would seek independent legal advice. It was then pointed out that the council had sought ‘Legal Advice’ in relation to whether to consider the Newcold site as being outside of the catchment of the Unilateral Undertaking (Section 106 agreement) and that despite Freedom of Information requests they had been unable to provide evidence of any such ‘Advice’ having been taken.
Neil was then asked outright for a straight ‘yes’ or ‘no’ answer - is there a chance of the Newcold development going back into the contribution area. He categorically said no chance whatsoever!!
All of this is also now made more complicated still by the plans for HS2 and when this was mentioned he said that although things were still vague, it is possible that it could cut through the site and make it impossible to leave enough land ever to develop so as to achieve the 60000 total!
Other things mentioned was that even though they have this recent letter from Gateleys they are still open to giving Yorkcourt planning for houses (on the proposed Stadium site) in order to help them gather more money to contribute towards a Community Stadium.
Thereafter it appeared as though he just wanted to blame the Inspector and the Government and a poor 106 as the reason for the non-delivery of the Community Stadium.

The above is just a potted version of the discussion. It does however confirm that it would appear that the council are reluctant to turn down the current Planning Application, although a formal decision can only be made by the Planning Committee themselves.
At the meeting we were also advised of something we had heard before, but never able to verify, which is that Yorkcourt were involved in the delivery of the Manchester Arena – we would appreciate someone confirming this if they have any knowledge or evidence of it.

Don’t care which trust they talk to and whose on what trust, just want a fit for purpose stadium for our City and Club.

Up the Trin
wtid71 
RankPostsTeam
International Star522No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 24 201311 years311th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
11th Oct 21 20:2320th Sep 21 13:53LINK
Milestone Posts
500
1000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Latest on NM : Tue Oct 09, 2018 10:01 pm  
Wakefield City wrote:
Don’t care which trust they talk to and whose on what trust, just want a fit for purpose stadium for our City and Club.

Up the Trin


Well I for one put all my trust in those in the Community Trust that have worked tirelessly on behalf of us fans for years , giving up probably thousands of hours of their own time to get the stadium the city of Wakefield was promised. If the council is now talking to Walker god help us as the only person he is ever serving is himself.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach4550
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 30 200815 years209th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
23rd Apr 24 18:1512th Apr 24 14:38LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
The sunny side of Wakey
Signature
Wakefields roller coaster ride continues.

Re: Latest on NM : Tue Oct 09, 2018 10:11 pm  
wtid71 wrote:
Well I for one put all my trust in those in the Community Trust that have worked tirelessly on behalf of us fans for years , giving up probably thousands of hours of their own time to get the stadium the city of Wakefield was promised. If the council is now talking to Walker god help us as the only person he is ever serving is himself.

Likewise from me. The Community Trust are the ones that have fought this battle and they are the ones I want to succeed.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Club Captain1172No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 19 20168 years278th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
21st Apr 24 16:0810th Apr 24 19:14LINK
Milestone Posts
1000
2500
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Latest on NM : Tue Oct 09, 2018 10:23 pm  
You should care which "Trust" they talk to.
One will deliver (community), the other "trust" will please itself.
I hesitate to actually call it a "trust" for fear of giving credence to the idea it actually exists.
We know what it is and it ain't no trust.
JINJER 
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach7389
JoinedServiceReputation
May 03 200519 years278th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
23rd Apr 24 18:2620th Apr 24 15:19LINK
Milestone Posts
5000
10000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
WF6,a small town in Wakefield
Signature
Twitter...@GINGERWILDCAT

Re: Latest on NM : Tue Oct 09, 2018 10:25 pm  
Wakefield City wrote:
Don’t care which trust they talk to and whose on what trust, just want a fit for purpose stadium for our City and Club.

Up the Trin

If for any reason Walkers trust got involved and usurped the Community trust I'd never watch Trinity again, it would be the end of my love affair with our great club.
RankPostsTeam
International Star2482
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 31 201410 years262nd
OnlineLast PostLast Page
23rd Apr 24 16:2518th Apr 24 20:29LINK
Milestone Posts
1000
2500
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Latest on NM : Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:08 pm  
JINJER wrote:
If for any reason Walkers trust got involved and usurped the Community trust I'd never watch Trinity again, it would be the end of my love affair with our great club.


I for one wouldn't blame you but if it did happen then it would be time for the RFL to step in and put some leverage on all involved. Keep the faith mate. :CLAP:
JINJER 
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach7389
JoinedServiceReputation
May 03 200519 years278th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
23rd Apr 24 18:2620th Apr 24 15:19LINK
Milestone Posts
5000
10000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
WF6,a small town in Wakefield
Signature
Twitter...@GINGERWILDCAT

Re: Latest on NM : Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:38 pm  
newgroundb4wakey wrote:
I for one wouldn't blame you but if it did happen then it would be time for the RFL to step in and put some leverage on all involved. Keep the faith mate. :CLAP:

I've been keeping the faith ground wise for over ten years now mate and I'm worn out with it, I can't imagine how Sandal cat and TRB cope with it, they're either Angels or not wired up right. :lol:

Ps, that was a joke. :wink:
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach13490
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 26 200617 years61st
OnlineLast PostLast Page
23rd Apr 24 17:3023rd Apr 24 14:21LINK
Milestone Posts
10000
15000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
No bowl, stick, STICK!
Signature
1/10

Re: Latest on NM : Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:21 am  
Wakefield City wrote:
Don’t care which trust they talk to and whose on what trust, just want a fit for purpose stadium for our City and Club.

Up the Trin

I understand what you are saying and we shouldn't cut our nose off to spite our face but you've got one trust who will work/have worked tirelessly to secure community facilities as opposed to another 'trust' that's in it to line their own pockets and are not interested in delivering a new stadium.
Next

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: burtonsrlfc, dboy, LG83, nanker, phe13, Scarlet Pimpernell, Trinity_lurcher, Upanunder, Wakefield City and 355 guests

REPLY

Subject: 
Message:
   
Please note using apple style emoji's can result in posting failures.
Use the FULL EDITOR to better format content or upload images, be notified of replies etc...

Return to Wakefield Trinity


RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
0m
George King
Bent&Bon
3
2m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Irregs#16
410
2m
Cas A Challenge Cup
Zig
41
18m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
35538
20m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
57428
20m
Shopping list for 2025
davey41
1026
40m
French championship final
stroger
3
59m
WIRE YED Prediction Competition Salford Away
CW8
11
Recent
Castleford at home
spartakmixta
90
Recent
Widnes H
dddooommm
3
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
41s
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
57428
1m
Castleford at home
spartakmixta
90
1m
Darnell McIntosh to Leigh
Vancouver Le
11
2m
Recruitment rumours and links
just_browny
2366
2m
Leeds at Home
ComeOnYouUll
28
2m
Widnes H
dddooommm
3
2m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
Jack Burton
1577
2m
Corey Hall
jonh
10
3m
Going down
Greg Florimo
5
4m
At Batley
ricardo07
54
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
George King
Bent&Bon
3
TODAY
Widnes H
dddooommm
3
TODAY
French championship final
stroger
3
TODAY
Josh Drinkwater
Shifty Cat
5
TODAY
Dons v Dewsbury Sunday 28/4/24 3pm
Kick and cha
2
TODAY
Corey Hall
jonh
10
TODAY
Darnell McIntosh to Leigh
Vancouver Le
11
TODAY
80 minutes
wrencat1873
8
TODAY
Wigan academy products
Jukesays
4
TODAY
WIRE YED Prediction Competition Salford Away
CW8
11
TODAY
Commentators
lefty goldbl
4
TODAY
Going down
Greg Florimo
5
TODAY
Wakefield Trinity Too Strong For the Batley Bulldogs
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Castleford away next
jbuzza
11
TODAY
Ryan Hall to leave the Robins and join Leeds at the end of t
RoyBoy29
2
TODAY
IN 2025 Ryan Hall - Expires 2025
redmuzza
34
TODAY
2024 Southstandercom Prediction Competition Week 9
JMT
7
TODAY
Vs Leeds
Hangerman2
3
TODAY
Salford
BigTime
3
TODAY
Catalans Dragons Destroy Hull KR To Go Top
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Warrington Wolves Break Leigh Leopards Hearts By Snatching Win
Cokey
6
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Wakefield Trinity Too Strong F..
664
Catalans Dragons Destroy Hull ..
475
Warrington Wolves Break Leigh ..
553
Huddersfield Giants Fight Back..
648
France v England International..
1464
Warrington Stun St Helens In C..
2132
2024 Challenge Cup Semi-Finals..
1626
Wigan Warriors Demolish Woeful..
1766
Hull KR Eliminate the Cup Hold..
1903
Bradford Bulls Come From Behin..
2310
Bradford Bulls Beat Feathersto..
2728
Giants Thrash FC Again For Top..
2649
Warrington Brush Aside The Rhi..
2349
Wigan Coast to Victory over Le..
2310
Giants Come From Behind For Ea..
2577
RLFANS Match Centre
Matches on TV
Table 'boards.stats_fixtures' doesn't exist