Re: SL RD 23 | Hull FC (H) : Tue Jul 23, 2019 12:27 pm  

Dwyer plays a lot like Burrow at hooker. Potentially game changing if used effectively (hence deserving of an extension IMO) but not what we need at hooker. Plus, Brad's not as good as Rob.

To be fair to 'Dog', his form was a lot better earlier in the season, but he seems to be struggling now - trying to force things a bit too much. You get that in teams under pressure - it's also affecting other players like Newman and Hurrell.

Do Leeds use a sports psychologist?

Re: SL RD 23 | Hull FC (H) : Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:35 pm  

Exeter Rhino wrote:

Dwyer plays a lot like Burrow at hooker. Potentially game changing if used effectively (hence deserving of an extension IMO) but not what we need at hooker. Plus, Brad's not as good as Rob.

To be fair to 'Dog', his form was a lot better earlier in the season, but he seems to be struggling now - trying to force things a bit too much. You get that in teams under pressure - it's also affecting other players like Newman and Hurrell.

Do Leeds use a sports psychologist?

I think Burrow was much worse at 9. He played in a far better team but he would have been a nightmare to run off. His passing was worse, he more often than not ran his runners out. Though, overall, Burrow had a better career (in the halves) and had more of the ‘X’ factor and is rightly regarded as a Leeds legend.

Re: SL RD 23 | Hull FC (H) : Tue Jul 23, 2019 7:44 pm  

Got to be honest I'm fed up of the hooking issues we have constantly. It's about time we got a hooker long term who can do the job.

I'm maybe too harsh on Dwyer but I honestly think hes one of the worst players I've ever seen. Lunt isn't the answer either.

It's gone on for nearly 10 years now and it's about time we got a proper 9 at the club who stays and performs.

Corey needs to work on his collision and physicality and he could be the answer. It needs bloody sorting, it's a crucial position and is along with a 7, an absolute priority for the club to rectify.

Re: SL RD 23 | Hull FC (H) : Tue Jul 23, 2019 8:40 pm  

Marty Grrrrrrrrrr! wrote:

Got to be honest I'm fed up of the hooking issues we have constantly. It's about time we got a hooker long term who can do the job.

I'm maybe too harsh on Dwyer but I honestly think hes one of the worst players I've ever seen. Lunt isn't the answer either.

It's gone on for nearly 10 years now and it's about time we got a proper 9 at the club who stays and performs.

Corey needs to work on his collision and physicality and he could be the answer. It needs bloody sorting, it's a crucial position and is along with a 7, an absolute priority for the club to rectify.

Completely agree. It’s one of, if not the most influential positions these days, and yet we’ve seemed to shove square pegs into round holes or just use stop gaps.

I’m a fan of Dwyer but only if used correctly, in the same way that Burrow, if he had to be played there, should have been. 10-15 minute spells in each half If needed to step up the speed/intensity while the main 9 has a rest.

Re: SL RD 23 | Hull FC (H) : Wed Jul 24, 2019 5:26 am  

dont rate dwyerbut a short spell or two is fine

Re: SL RD 23 | Hull FC (H) : Wed Jul 24, 2019 7:23 am  

I agree, Dwyer off the bench to make an impact and add a spark is fine. 10 mins before HT and last 20 mins would be ideal to take advantage of tired legs.

Re: SL RD 23 | Hull FC (H) : Wed Jul 24, 2019 7:42 am  

Well hopefully we move to 80mins from Johnson in another year or two.

Re: SL RD 23 | Hull FC (H) : Wed Jul 24, 2019 7:52 am  

KaeruJim wrote:

Well hopefully we move to 80mins from Johnson in another year or two.

Is this likely to happen? I've not seen much of him, but from the board it seems like he's a talented player.

Just hope it's not another Liam Hood situation!

Re: SL RD 23 | Hull FC (H) : Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:48 am  

exiledrhino wrote:

Is this likely to happen? I've not seen much of him, but from the board it seems like he's a talented player.

Just hope it's not another Liam Hood situation!

Liam Hood, who actually did quite decent holding his own after us? Corey is completely different to Hood, both in skills and physically.

The problem with Dwyer is not realising when it is a problem. It always seemed stupid against Hull KR to start him with Lunt on the bench. The lead KR got was down to him, they targetted him and ran him ragged. He was not an issue in attack, but that isn't the only part of the game. Once he was off, the threat of Hull KR diminished. Against Hull, we left him out there when he was near dead getting up, 20 minutes before the end of the game, and again Hull targetted him defensively, and nine missed tackles is absolute pathetic stats, and purely as a result of him staying out there. He should have been off, and that is down to the coach not acting on that.

Re: SL RD 23 | Hull FC (H) : Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:28 pm  

Gotcha wrote:

Liam Hood, who actually did quite decent holding his own after us? Corey is completely different to Hood, both in skills and physically.

The problem with Dwyer is not realising when it is a problem. It always seemed stupid against Hull KR to start him with Lunt on the bench. The lead KR got was down to him, they targetted him and ran him ragged. He was not an issue in attack, but that isn't the only part of the game. Once he was off, the threat of Hull KR diminished. Against Hull, we left him out there when he was near dead getting up, 20 minutes before the end of the game, and again Hull targetted him defensively, and nine missed tackles is absolute pathetic stats, and purely as a result of him staying out there. He should have been off, and that is down to the coach not acting on that.

What's youre view of Johnsons skillset? Is he likely to make the step up in your opinion?

Any other of the academy you particularly think will make the grade?