RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
22 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
WWW.RLFANS.COM • View topic - NEW COACH | Richard Agar - Rolling Contract

User avatarbatleyrhino wrote:
batleyrhino User avatar
Silver RLFANS Member
Silver RLFANS Member

Joined: Tue Feb 26, 2002 3:32 pm
Posts: 7854
Location: anywhere, literally...
I think you mean, at least he managed to replicate the form of the bottom team in SL as we are no further in front of them now than we were when he took over. This is why people are less than excited about announcing him as permanent.

Nothing in his CV says he should be permanent Head Coach at Leeds.
It's not how much talent you've got, it's what you do with it that counts.

User avatarchristopher wrote:
christopher User avatar
Silver RLFANS Member
Silver RLFANS Member

Joined: Tue Nov 19, 2002 9:13 am
Posts: 9585
Location: West Yorkshire
batleyrhino wrote:
Looks like they are not expecting to get anyone (or many) out without their contracts expiring so they took the easy option of continuing with Agar until they can get some new players in for 2021.

Can't see this endearing them to the occasional visitor to Headingley or as a mechanism for convincing many wavering Season Ticket holders.

This is bad news financially speaking.


Or, you know, he might work out and the team might start improving next year.

User avatarchristopher wrote:
christopher User avatar
Silver RLFANS Member
Silver RLFANS Member

Joined: Tue Nov 19, 2002 9:13 am
Posts: 9585
Location: West Yorkshire
batleyrhino wrote:
I think you mean, at least he managed to replicate the form of the bottom team in SL as we are no further in front of them now than we were when he took over. This is why people are less than excited about announcing him as permanent.

Nothing in his CV says he should be permanent Head Coach at Leeds.



I don't give a monkeys about his CV, I care about what he can do for us next season and I'll judge him on that.

BrisbaneRhino User avatar
Silver RLFANS Member
Silver RLFANS Member

Joined: Wed May 08, 2002 11:46 pm
Posts: 9565
Location: 10 mins walk from Suncorp Stadium
I can only assume you're right fgb. We've appointed a coach who was no longer even trying to be a coach because no one would hire him based on his record.

I think we've gone that way because of two things.

First, over reading how 'well' he's done this year.

Second we're gun shy because of Furner.

None of these stand any real scrutiny. His record this season is nothing at all to jump up about. 5th in a table where half the teams suck completely, with three new signings? Sorry for not praising the messiah. I reckon quite a few coaches would have done at least as well.

As for Furner? Yes he was terrible but that says more about the people who hired him than anything else. If you sign a supposed star and they don't work out do you then sign numpties because of it? No, you try to do better with the next one. Ditto coach.

I hope Agar proves me wrong, but his appointment is gutless IMO.

Brodie123 wrote:
Brodie123 Strong-running second rower
Strong-running second rower

Joined: Mon May 21, 2018 5:17 pm
Posts: 319
Overall bad news, don't expect him to be here at the end of next season because he wont last the season, there must be method in their madness. Will it hit them financially?? yes it will. Three poor years out of the last four seasons and no one can convince me that we have turned the corner.
All I can think of saying is that whichever way we look at it maybe after the Furner issue no Australian wants the role, that we are limited with a low choice of top class English coaches and with having to pay off Furner maybe Agar is all we can afford, he is the cheap option. Lets hope we end up with a solid number 2.

BrisbaneRhino User avatar
Silver RLFANS Member
Silver RLFANS Member

Joined: Wed May 08, 2002 11:46 pm
Posts: 9565
Location: 10 mins walk from Suncorp Stadium
All we need is to re sign Ferries and the jobs done.

I get all the comparisons to the early 2000s but I'd say a better comparison is 97 when GH came in. We had a team full of rubbish and signing Harris and then Murray as coach turned it around.

User avatarbatleyrhino wrote:
batleyrhino User avatar
Silver RLFANS Member
Silver RLFANS Member

Joined: Tue Feb 26, 2002 3:32 pm
Posts: 7854
Location: anywhere, literally...
christopher wrote:
I don't give a monkeys about his CV, I care about what he can do for us next season and I'll judge him on that.


I will also judge him on next season, but I'll judge those who appoint him based on his qualifications for being Leeds coach in the first place. They (GH and KS) have together got a lot wrong in the last few years in terms of judgement, I sincerely hope this isn't another case of that in a year's time.

At best I see it that we will tread water for a year, waiting for some more players to go off contract, and hoping that we can integrate some more promising kids, but the difficulty is that integrating kids into a poorly playing team (like we have had this year) is a very hard task.
It's not how much talent you've got, it's what you do with it that counts.

User avatarKaeruJim wrote:
KaeruJim User avatar
Free-scoring winger
Free-scoring winger

Joined: Thu Oct 18, 2018 8:27 am
Posts: 2122
I say we showed some positive signs of progress under Agar this season. People have their agendas and beliefs and that's fine, time will tell who's right and wrong - but in absolute performance terms our defence is improved and our attitude is improved IMO. Those are the kinds of attributes you can build on.

If Agar doesn't step the team up next year, he won't last the course and someone else will be brought in. If he does, great.

We are in a period of major squad rebuilding, it's only really 12 months since McDermott left.

We'll be paying the price for p-poor decision making in recruitment over the past several years (and lack of junior development) for another year or two yet.
fanstanningley User avatar
Gold RLFANS Member
Gold RLFANS Member

Joined: Sun Aug 11, 2002 6:11 pm
Posts: 10532
Location: Pudsey
KaeruJim wrote:
I say we showed some positive signs of progress under Agar this season. People have their agendas and beliefs and that's fine, time will tell who's right and wrong - but in absolute performance terms our defence is improved and our attitude is improved IMO. Those are the kinds of attributes you can build on.

If Agar doesn't step the team up next year, he won't last the course and someone else will be brought in. If he does, great.

We are in a period of major squad rebuilding, it's only really 12 months since McDermott left.

We'll be paying the price for p-poor decision making in recruitment over the past several years (and lack of junior development) for another year or two yet.

Agree with all the above.
I'm not a pheasant plucker, i'm a pheasant pluckers son and i'm only plucking pheasants till the pheasant plucker comes.

User avatarchristopher wrote:
christopher User avatar
Silver RLFANS Member
Silver RLFANS Member

Joined: Tue Nov 19, 2002 9:13 am
Posts: 9585
Location: West Yorkshire
KaeruJim wrote:
I say we showed some positive signs of progress under Agar this season. People have their agendas and beliefs and that's fine, time will tell who's right and wrong - but in absolute performance terms our defence is improved and our attitude is improved IMO. Those are the kinds of attributes you can build on.

If Agar doesn't step the team up next year, he won't last the course and someone else will be brought in. If he does, great.

We are in a period of major squad rebuilding, it's only really 12 months since McDermott left.

We'll be paying the price for p-poor decision making in recruitment over the past several years (and lack of junior development) for another year or two yet.


Totally agree.
PreviousNext

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: burtonsrlfc, Danibo160, Jrrhino, Magic Superbeetle, Roverman1, Trebor1 and 131 guests

Quick Reply



Subject:
Message:

   
Please note using apple style emoji's can result in posting failures.

Return to Leeds Rhinos - southstander.com


POSTSONLINEMEMBERSRECORDTEAM
5,153,6702,26978,5794,559LOGIN
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.
When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
YOU HAVE RL CHAT OFF
RLFANS Match Centre
Sun 9th May
CH RND: 5 Swinton22-23Bradford
CH RND: 5 Dewsbury0-36Halifax
CH RND: 5 LondonB50-30Newcastle
CH RND: 5 York12-16Featherstone
NRL RND: 9 Manly38-32NZ Warriors
NRL RND: 9 St.George32-12Canterbury
CH RND: 5 Toulouse70-0Widnes
L1 RND: 1 Coventry20-38Barrow
L1 RND: 1 Hunslet16-28Workington
L1 RND: 1 Keighley44-18Doncaster
L1 RND: 1 Rochdale40-16West Wales
Sat 8th May
CC RND: 4 Hull FC20-10Wigan
CC RND: 4 Castleford19-18Salford
CH RND: 5 Oldham4-36Whitehaven
NRL RND: 9 Canberra16-24Newcastle
NRL RND: 9 Wests28-36Gold Coast
NRL RND: 9 NQL Cowboys19-18Brisbane
L1 RND: 1 LondonS24-44Crusaders
Fri 7th May
CC RND: 4 Catalans6-16Warrington
CC RND: 4 St.Helens23-18Huddersfield
This is an inplay table and positions can change as matches are in play.
National Rugby League 2021 ROUND : 10
 PLDFADIFFPNTS
Penrith 9 260 60 200 18
Parramatta 9 260 124 136 16
Melbourne 9 292 108 184 14
Souths 9 235 174 61 14
Sydney 9 254 123 131 12
St.George 9 193 169 24 10
 
Gold Coast 9 218 219 -1 8
NZ Warriors 9 189 216 -27 8
Manly 9 177 234 -57 8
Newcastle 9 161 220 -59 8
NQL Cowboys 9 165 255 -90 8
Canberra 9 173 209 -36 6
Cronulla 9 152 226 -74 4
Brisbane 9 140 240 -100 4
Wests 9 158 262 -104 4
Canterbury 9 92 280 -188 2
This is an inplay table and positions can change as matches are in play.
Betfred Super League XXVI ROUND : 6
 PLDFADIFFPNTSDIFFWP%
St.Helens 5 128 34 94 10 376.47 100
Wigan 5 111 56 55 10 198.21 100
Castleford 5 131 78 53 8 167.95 80
Catalans 5 137 86 51 8 159.30 80
Hull FC 5 105 58 47 7 181.03 70
Warrington 5 144 81 63 7 177.78 70
 
Hull KR 5 105 134 -29 4 78.36 40
Huddersfield 5 68 98 -30 2 69.39 20
Leeds 5 63 99 -36 2 63.64 20
Salford 5 68 142 -74 2 47.89 20
Wakefield 5 66 154 -88 0 42.86 0
Leigh 5 66 172 -106 0 38.37 0
This is an inplay table and positions can change as matches are in play.
Betfred Championship 2021 ROUND : 6
 PLDFADIFFPNTSDIFFWP%
Toulouse 4 159 40 119 8 397.50 100
Featherstone 4 128 50 78 8 256 100
Batley 5 172 88 84 8 195.45 80
Bradford 5 127 134 -7 8 94.78 80
Sheffield 5 124 100 24 5 124 50
LondonB 5 124 145 -21 5 85.52 50
 
Halifax 5 155 101 54 4 153.47 40
York 5 126 93 33 4 135.48 40
Whitehaven 5 109 119 -10 4 91.60 40
Dewsbury 5 73 123 -50 4 59.35 40
Oldham 5 82 156 -74 4 52.56 40
Newcastle 5 120 153 -33 3 78.43 30
Widnes 5 106 180 -74 3 58.89 30
Swinton 5 74 197 -123 0 37.56 0
This is an inplay table and positions can change as matches are in play.
Betfred League One 2021 ROUND : 2
 PLDFADIFFPNTSDIFFWP%
Rochdale 1 40 16 24 2 250 100
Keighley 1 44 18 26 2 244.44 100
Barrow 1 38 20 18 2 190 100
Crusaders 1 44 24 20 2 183.33 100
Workington 1 28 16 12 2 175 100
Hunslet 1 16 28 -12 0 57.14 0
 
LondonS 1 24 44 -20 0 54.55 0
Coventry 1 20 38 -18 0 52.63 0
Doncaster 1 18 44 -26 0 40.91 0
West Wales 1 16 40 -24 0 40 0
This is an inplay table and positions can change as matches are in play.
Betfred Womens Super League 2021 ROUND : 3
 PLDFADIFFPNTSDIFFWP%
St.HelensW 2 176 0 176 4 1,760 100
CastlefordW 2 84 6 78 4 1,400 100
WiganW 2 90 8 82 4 1,125 100
LeedsW 2 140 16 124 4 875 100
YorkW 1 16 68 -52 0 23.53 0
Wire W 1 8 52 -44 0 15.38 0
 
FeatherstoneW 2 6 112 -106 0 5.36 0
BradfordW 2 0 124 -124 0 0 0
Hudds W 1 0 90 -90 0 0 0
WakefieldW 1 0 44 -44 0 0 0
RLFANS Recent Posts




X