Re: Toulouse : Fri Oct 22, 2021 7:12 pm  

jools wrote:

there will be no anglo-french league of big city clubs regardless if they bring those things - since when was wigan or saint helens a big city?

Fair enough on your first point, on your latter point since when was support for any club, RL or soccer ring fenced??

Plenty of fans will travel to Wigan from Manchester, from Liverpool to Saints, or from Chester to watch Wire.

Leeds attract fans down from York, Wakey from Barnsley etc etc.....Wigan Wire and Saints are big names in Rugby League and attract sizable crowds from a wide radius.

Re: Toulouse : Fri Oct 22, 2021 8:02 pm  

Donnyman wrote:

Fair enough on your first point, on your latter point since when was support for any club, RL or soccer ring fenced??

Plenty of fans will travel to Wigan from Manchester, from Liverpool to Saints, or from Chester to watch Wire.

Leeds attract fans down from York, Wakey from Barnsley etc etc.....Wigan Wire and Saints are big names in Rugby League and attract sizable crowds from a wide radius.

Yes and equally Catalans fans come from a wide catchment area just as Toulouse fans will. Many will go to both.

Re: Toulouse : Fri Oct 22, 2021 9:02 pm  

Donnyman wrote:

Fair enough on your first point, on your latter point since when was support for any club, RL or soccer ring fenced??

Plenty of fans will travel to Wigan from Manchester, from Liverpool to Saints, or from Chester to watch Wire.

Leeds attract fans down from York, Wakey from Barnsley etc etc.....Wigan Wire and Saints are big names in Rugby League and attract sizable crowds from a wide radius.

I’m not ring fencing- I’m pointing out you were!

Re: Toulouse : Mon Oct 25, 2021 8:00 am  

** Ahem.Cough.Cough ** Calling Donnyman. https://www.totalrl.com/lenagan-welcome ... er-league/

** Ahem.Cough.Cough ** Calling Donnyman. https://www.totalrl.com/lenagan-welcome ... er-league/

Re: Toulouse : Mon Oct 25, 2021 8:13 am  

sanjunien wrote:

Yes and equally Catalans fans come from a wide catchment area just as Toulouse fans will. Many will go to both.

I'd change that to some

Re: Toulouse : Mon Oct 25, 2021 11:51 am  

Donnyman wrote:

I'd change that to some

No, I think ‘many’.

Mainly cos many live in between the two , around Carcassonne and Limoux for example.

Re: Toulouse : Mon Oct 25, 2021 12:46 pm  

sanjunien wrote:

No, I think ‘many’.

Mainly cos many live in between the two , around Carcassonne and Limoux for example.

I'll take that call and bow to your superior experience......

However I can't accept the gushing tribute Lenegan makes in the Rugby Leaguer to TO after Superleague spent weeks trying to argue for 2x10 that would have shut them out. It's way over the top and doesn't really hide the fact that Mr. Beaumont's Leigh was much preferred to Toulouse as proven by Mr. Lenegan actual action of flagging Leigh in for this last season just gone without a thought for a second French club in SL.

Maybe TO can redeem themselves in his eyes by finding that Elusive paying French TV deal, and playing as many French players as possible (which could still mean they go down anyway and Leigh finally go up to stay.....................)

Re: Toulouse : Mon Oct 25, 2021 5:29 pm  

Donnyman wrote:

However I can't accept the gushing tribute Lenegan makes in the Rugby Leaguer

To be clear, you are saying he is liar based purely on your previous misconception and baseless theory that he didn't want Toulouse?

Wow.

Re: Toulouse : Mon Oct 25, 2021 6:36 pm  

Nothus wrote:

Why should they bring their own TV deal? T

Because it would be extra money wouldn't it. IIRC French fans can't subscribe to SKY so they need someone like Bein TV to provide a deal from French subscribers.

Less English clubs means less English subscribers........

Re: Toulouse : Mon Oct 25, 2021 7:58 pm  

Donnyman wrote: Less English clubs means less English subscribers........ The word is '"fewer" and I'd like to see the documented proof of this theory that you are peddling as fact. In the fiscal year 2020, the British pay TV operator Sky's advertising segment had income of 1,440 million British pounds. which accounted for about 11% of their income. Sky have 13,000,000 subscribers in the UK with another 10,000,000 in Ireland, Italy, Switzerland, Austria and Germany........the average viewership for a SL game in the UK is under 200,000. Sky lost 198,000 subscribers in the second fiscal Quarter this year...by your logic, that's because Leigh were relegated and replaced by Toulouse SKY see Rugby League as a filler sport, pure and simple. It costs peanuts and they get to have games on a Thursday night, which gives them something to show when there's little if any live soccer on. I'd hazard a guess that of the 200k people watching SL, very few of them would have SKY only for the RL, but as I say that is a guess on my part. What I can say is that if all 200,000 were to quit because of there being 2 French sides, SKY would walk and we'd return to the dark ages, which seems to be what you'd like. Happy to be shown documented proof of your theory that SKY will lose subscribers because of the arrival of Toulouse, but as I have shown, sky lost the equivalent of a Superleague match audience of Subscribers in 3 months but saw an increase in profits.

Donnyman wrote: Less English clubs means less English subscribers........ The word is '"fewer" and I'd like to see the documented proof of this theory that you are peddling as fact. In the fiscal year 2020, the British pay TV operator Sky's advertising segment had income of 1,440 million British pounds. which accounted for about 11% of their income. Sky have 13,000,000 subscribers in the UK with another 10,000,000 in Ireland, Italy, Switzerland, Austria and Germany........the average viewership for a SL game in the UK is under 200,000. Sky lost 198,000 subscribers in the second fiscal Quarter this year...by your logic, that's because Leigh were relegated and replaced by Toulouse SKY see Rugby League as a filler sport, pure and simple. It costs peanuts and they get to have games on a Thursday night, which gives them something to show when there's little if any live soccer on. I'd hazard a guess that of the 200k people watching SL, very few of them would have SKY only for the RL, but as I say that is a guess on my part. What I can say is that if all 200,000 were to quit because of there being 2 French sides, SKY would walk and we'd return to the dark ages, which seems to be what you'd like. Happy to be shown documented proof of your theory that SKY will lose subscribers because of the arrival of Toulouse, but as I have shown, sky lost the equivalent of a Superleague match audience of Subscribers in 3 months but saw an increase in profits.