Re: Luke Yates Confirmed : Tue May 28, 2024 10:09 am  

Karetaker / Zig

What in particular don't you like about Yates?

For me the stats look good at first sight but stats don't tell the full picture.
Attitude and 'team player'are vitally important.

Re: Luke Yates Confirmed : Tue May 28, 2024 10:46 am  

Honestly i would rather have kept Nicholson as i think he's brilliant already, but still has years of improvement still.
But i'm happy we've gotten Yates, he's a 100% tried and tested Workhorse with superb defence year after year, and he hits well above his size and weight in attack.
Gutted to lose Nicholson but happy to get Yates.

Re: Luke Yates Confirmed : Tue May 28, 2024 12:14 pm  

fez1 wrote:

Karetaker / Zig

What in particular don't you like about Yates?

For me the stats look good at first sight but stats don't tell the full picture.
Attitude and 'team player'are vitally important.

Well I asked when it was just a rumour of him signing so I decided to watch the giants games, now there was a thing about his stats and it was made a big thing of. What I had noticed in the games I’ve seen so far he is 2nd or 3rd man in the tackle I asked do these count to the stats and was told yes. But in answer to your question I don’t dislike him just right now I can’t see how he gets in the 17 ahead of the others if he was here now.

Re: Luke Yates Confirmed : Tue May 28, 2024 8:08 pm  

karetaker wrote:

Well I asked when it was just a rumour of him signing so I decided to watch the giants games, now there was a thing about his stats and it was made a big thing of. What I had noticed in the games I’ve seen so far he is 2nd or 3rd man in the tackle I asked do these count to the stats and was told yes. But in answer to your question I don’t dislike him just right now I can’t see how he gets in the 17 ahead of the others if he was here now.

Thanks Karetaker.
I understand your point.
I hadn't made a point of looking what he does in detail. Will look at this this weekend.
Cheers

Re: Luke Yates Confirmed : Tue May 28, 2024 8:43 pm  

karetaker wrote:

Well I asked when it was just a rumour of him signing so I decided to watch the giants games, now there was a thing about his stats and it was made a big thing of. What I had noticed in the games I’ve seen so far he is 2nd or 3rd man in the tackle I asked do these count to the stats and was told yes. But in answer to your question I don’t dislike him just right now I can’t see how he gets in the 17 ahead of the others if he was here now.

That was my only issue, that i didn't get who he would displace to get in the team. But with Nicholson going he slots in a bit better, whether that's starting or on the bench.
But if he starts second row does that mean Holroyd doesn't get a shot, or if he's used as a bench prop does that Stifle woods development, or make Bullocks re-signing even more bizzarre.
We have cover for Loose and second row with Crowther, so is he just going to be a utility forward? Suppose we'll see what the plan is next year

Re: Luke Yates Confirmed : Wed May 29, 2024 6:57 am  

Am unsure on Yates, yes he has all the stats backing him as a solid defensive player. His stats read very favourable for Yates. Signing a journeyman in his late 20’s would not have been a priority for me. Considering most on here were clamouring for wire to give youth a chance, a lot are heaping praise on this signing. Taking a quota space up as well makes Yates signing look more strange especially if a player from Nrl becomes available more suited to Wire needs.
But Burgess has got most decisions right so far, so in Burges we trust

Re: Luke Yates Confirmed : Wed May 29, 2024 2:47 pm  

Lord Tony Smith wrote:

I wouldn't be surprised if Burgess signed an extension with us from what I've heard.

Just watched the verdict on sky sports news Bugess was the guest and Jenna Brooks asked him about extending his stay. He did not commit to anything. Just said how he is enjoying his time etc.

Re: Luke Yates Confirmed : Wed May 29, 2024 7:47 pm  

I see Yates as being another part of the Jigsaw.... a strong, reliable player, who can cover multiple positions and play for 80 mins... that's a real asset to have in your team.

This signing gives Burgess a player who can play prop and loose forward, without having to rotate him during a game...and one that could easily be the captain... he will command huge respect from his team mates... that must be a coaches dream.

Re: Luke Yates Confirmed : Wed May 29, 2024 9:12 pm  

Pleased we've signed Yates. He's a top quality SL forward but I'm sorry we've lost Nicholson in the process. I think he could become the best of the current crop of young English players in the NRL. Worrying sign for the future of RL in this country.

Re: Luke Yates Confirmed : Thu May 30, 2024 8:33 am  

We were signing Yates before Nicholson leaving was on the cards. If we could we would have kept them both. Different types of players. Hardly worth comparing the stats. Be very wary of stats as they only tell part of the story.