Re: Wakefield v Halifax : Sun Jun 23, 2024 7:16 am  

bentleyman wrote:

Pay pn the Day Hudds same price see you in the Black Rock !!

We'll be there!

Re: Wakefield v Halifax : Sun Jun 23, 2024 1:43 pm  

It's taken almost half a season, but our 3 best players in their best positions and Widdop on the bench - hoo bloody rah!!

Re: Wakefield v Halifax : Sun Jun 23, 2024 5:28 pm  

Didn’t do too bad...WTF was Saltonstall doing though...may as well have played with 12..

Re: Wakefield v Halifax : Sun Jun 23, 2024 5:44 pm  

Worry not. We are only 2 points off 7th, and even 6th placed Fev could be dragged into the biggest relegation scrap for years. It's more exciting than being at the top and chasing impossible promotion!

Re: Wakefield v Halifax : Sun Jun 23, 2024 6:24 pm  

Game after game we see Saltonstall and his centre in no man's land with seemingly no defensive structure or idea on that side of the pitch.

It's not always his fault due to the lack of defensive drift but his tendency to unnecessarily shoot the line hurts us so often.

Would love to trust our goal-line defence but we look so so fragile at times, and not just today.

Bring on Whitehaven!

Re: Wakefield v Halifax : Sun Jun 23, 2024 7:47 pm  

Salty got shaken up and peppered with what was 5 or 6 down that side where Trin were clinical.

Elsewhere plenty of effort with Woody showing up well at times and getting a look at the pitch will hopefully be worth something for the Haven game.

Re: Wakefield v Halifax : Mon Jun 24, 2024 9:17 am  

It will be good to see the trys and see where the issue was. Over last few seasons I think we've struggled on that side because we don't move across well. Often Gee and Jouffret get drawn in towards the middle and leave us short, meaning Salty has to gamble or be left 2 or 3 on 1.

Last week he gambled right and came up with the intercept that killed the game.

Re: Wakefield v Halifax : Mon Jun 24, 2024 1:18 pm  

I too would have to watch the match back to see who was at fault for the number of tries we conceded down our right side. Just to put all the blame on Salty from watching it live would be wrong for me. We all know he is not the best in d shooting the line and so on but how many times was he left dealing with 2 or 3 on ones, when Barber jams in Salty as to follow that suggests a bigger problem with the defence inside him.
As for the game in general you could see the size difference between the sides even there backs looked bigger than our forwards. But from a skill and creative point of view we caused them plenty of problems with the ball. I thought Woody had a very good game and deserved his man of the match for us. The biggest worry i have for us is our defence is very weak even against the sides nowhere near as strong as Wakefield we look soft in that area. we can score points no doubt and i will back us to beat Whitehaven because of that.

Re: Wakefield v Halifax : Mon Jun 24, 2024 4:42 pm  

Just watching the highlights as I thought it would be interesting to see how much Salty was to blame as I saw him getting stick on FB as well.

Wakey first try and I honestly have no idea what sort of defensive system has the centre and winger hold back like Barber and Salty did for this try. Once Wakey move it though Barber does not trust his inside man and its a really nice ball from Wakey to set up the try. Hard to blame Salty for this one but have to question that defensive system.

Wakey second try is really well worked but again Barber gets the slide wrong and Wakey execute well. Salty in two minds and ends up doing neither of his options. I think Salty has to pick an option but again Barber and the rest of the inside defense takes most of the blame.

Wakey 3rd try is awful with Barber and Keyes getting the numbers wrong. I mean most teams are not going to execute that 3 on 2 as well as Wakefield but still its really soft. Keys and Barber have to number up better there. Again hard to blame Salty.

Wakey 5th try again is great by Wakefield how they picked us apart but once again we see that weird defensive system with the Winger and this time Keyes holding. I really don't know if thats just lazy defense or the system. Have to presume system as its happened on more than one occasion. Inside defence gets it all wrong and Salty has no chance although the pass is a mile forward.

Wakey 6th try bad read by Barber again as he bites in on the wrong man who Keyes already has that kind of forces Salty's hand but the ball from Jowett is fantastic he can only pick that pass if he senses our winger is going to be shooting in and that is how most teams play. It's a class pass but once again the problem starts inside but its Salty who on a live watch appears to get it wrong. Replay says not though.

Wakey 7th try is really abysmal defence. Barber really does not trust Keyes in defence does he as he once again does not allow Keyes a chance to do his job and takes the wrong man.I think if Barber holds here that would allow Salty to hold as well and we have the numbers sorted. I'm not sure what Salty is doing in the end up so he can take some of the blame for this one but this is mainly on Barber again for me.

I didn't realise that every try bar 2 came down that side but its clear to see from that the system that we are playing is not working and Barber has had a mare, he is certainly more to blame than Salty who at a push I think can share some of the blame for two of the tries at a push. I always makes for an interesting watch when a winger gets stranded like Salty has done here and we had the same with Walmsley a bit last season as he got quite a bit unjust blame in similar situations. 9/10 though with things like that the problem often startes with the inside defense.

Re: Wakefield v Halifax : Mon Jun 24, 2024 5:23 pm  

I’l bow to your greater knowledge...but naively to me in general terms it should be winger on winger and if a try is scored inside that it someone else’s fault.Saltonstall trying to cover up other deficiencies only made it much worse..