Re: Leigh (h) pt 2 : Wed Aug 07, 2024 11:25 am  

Zig wrote:

Forber is fit again. Faz is 20% of the player he was but still provides the gel that holds us together. The guy needs a rest and hopefully he will get that before the play offs. Better all round performance. Junior was great, Keighran’s best game, Hampshire and Smith improved, Walters is more suited to the middle and we need to spell Mago better as his defence can be wanting.

Farrell was superb again last night. More metres than any of the Wigan forwards, 35 tackles (third most).He's so consistent that he just doesnt' get the praise he deserves. He's been selected six times for the "dream team" more than any other second row forward.

Re: Leigh (h) pt 2 : Wed Aug 07, 2024 11:57 am  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

Farrell was superb again last night. More metres than any of the Wigan forwards, 35 tackles (third most).He's so consistent that he just doesnt' get the praise he deserves. He's been selected six times for the "dream team" more than any other second row forward.

Yet
A certain poster who comes on jere occasionally commented on Facebook "Put a Fork in Farrell he's done"
2 years ago at headingley there were 3 or 4 ex posters from here telling me he was done (They actually said he hadn't carried a ball in first half, when he had made about 10 hit ups and 20 tackles).
Anyone who cant see these last 5/6 weeks that he's playing a different role must be blindfolded
Not only switching sides last night, but going into 9 for significant parts of the game and playing like a "Middle" coming out of our own 10/20/30 like a prop or 13
Very Good again last night

Re: Leigh (h) pt 2 : Wed Aug 07, 2024 11:59 am  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

Farrell was superb again last night. More metres than any of the Wigan forwards, 35 tackles (third most).He's so consistent that he just doesnt' get the praise he deserves. He's been selected six times for the "dream team" more than any other second row forward.

It's true that his decline is somewhat exaggerated but I think most would agree that he is definitely not quite the player he was. He is no longer the attacking threat he used to be (which is not to say that he is no threat at all) and, while he remains a very strong defender, he has missed tackles this year that he would not have done in previous years. If Willie Isa had not been injured then I am sure Farrell would have been rested a bit more, and that would have done him good. But we just haven't had the luxury of doing without him. I would absolutely still want him to go round again next year, but I would hope we could cover him a bit more. Walters is still not where he needs to be, and his future may well be in the middle anyway, though I think he is improving, so that has put a lot of pressure on Faz and Nsemba.

Re: Leigh (h) pt 2 : Wed Aug 07, 2024 12:14 pm  

MadDogg wrote:

Definitely not - back to form in that first half. Moylan clearly isn't fit.

does he have it in his contract that he's excused from tackling? or maybe a note from his mam?

Re: Leigh (h) pt 2 : Wed Aug 07, 2024 2:53 pm  

We won’t know what we’ve had with Faz until he’s gone. The bloke is irreplaceable! Even on an iffy day he’ll knock out 100m plus and 30+ tackles.

As for the game it was a surprising performance really. I’d have taken a one point win before kick off. The side looked to have its focus back, highlighted as much as anyone by Harry Smith getting back towards playing his game and not over playing. We’ll desperately need Leeming to have a big end to the season and that was a great start.

Re: Leigh (h) pt 2 : Wed Aug 07, 2024 3:07 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

Farrell was superb again last night. More metres than any of the Wigan forwards, 35 tackles (third most).He's so consistent that he just doesnt' get the praise he deserves. He's been selected six times for the "dream team" more than any other second row forward.

I know but he is still nowhere near the player he was 5 years ago.

Re: Leigh (h) pt 2 : Thu Aug 08, 2024 8:53 am  

Zig wrote:

I know but he is still nowhere near the player he was 5 years ago.

as an individual making breaks maybe not , but he's in charge of the best organised pack seen in SL , his work rate in defence if unreal , take Farrell out and replace him with a forward who can beat the defence and looks more impressive and I think the whole defence would suffer . If you have the best defence , don't change anything . Obviously he's aging but he will be very hard to replace.

Re: Leigh (h) pt 2 : Thu Aug 08, 2024 9:02 am  

Still think he's good enough to go around for a further twelve months at least.

Re: Leigh (h) pt 2 : Thu Aug 08, 2024 10:00 am  

doc999 wrote:

as an individual making breaks maybe not , but he's in charge of the best organised pack seen in SL , his work rate in defence if unreal , take Farrell out and replace him with a forward who can beat the defence and looks more impressive and I think the whole defence would suffer . If you have the best defence , don't change anything . Obviously he's aging but he will be very hard to replace.

That’s what I said above, he is still the ‘gel that holds us together’. I have never said that Faz should be out of the side, apart from recharging his batteries, but I am still of the view that he is now on the wane.

Re: Leigh (h) pt 2 : Thu Aug 08, 2024 11:55 am  

Zig wrote:

That’s what I said above, he is still the ‘gel that holds us together’. I have never said that Faz should be out of the side, apart from recharging his batteries, but I am still of the view that he is now on the wane.

He's nowhere near only 20% of the player (In your words) he was
He may be 80/90% but 20% no way !!!
He may not do some of the things as well as he did 5years ago, but he does other things better