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Re: Tony Adams new RFL President : Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:18 am  
Some people don't need the experience to do a job.
I always believe if Sir Alex Ferguson was manager of Warrington, we'd be the biggest most successful team ever.
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Re: Tony Adams new RFL President : Fri Dec 14, 2018 11:24 am  
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Some people don't need the experience to do a job.
I always believe if Sir Alex Ferguson was manager of Warrington, we'd be the biggest most successful team ever.


sometimes you just gotta have faith eh duckie

I reckon if Donald Trump was manager we would be the greatest team in history, and I'm sure he does too.
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Re: Tony Adams new RFL President : Fri Dec 14, 2018 2:02 pm  
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sometimes you just gotta have faith eh duckie

I reckon if Donald Trump was manager we would be the greatest team in history, and I'm sure he does too.

Everytime we get a new political leader or a head of office in the cabinet...it's never someone who has experience!
Perhaps that's where we're going wrong!

Anyways it's very often poor to average ex players that make the most successful coaches... rarely those who have made playing greatness.
Which argues my point....good managers make good managers....Sir Alex is arguably the best ever
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Re: Tony Adams new RFL President : Fri Dec 14, 2018 3:40 pm  
And ,even more impressive ,Duckie was that he had the good sense & foresight to get out before they went belly up.
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Re: Tony Adams new RFL President : Fri Dec 14, 2018 9:38 pm  
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And ,even more impressive ,Duckie was that he had the good sense & foresight to get out before they went belly up.

I don't know. He reinvented utd 3 times.
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Re: Tony Adams new RFL President : Sat Dec 15, 2018 12:48 pm  
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And ,even more impressive ,Duckie was that he had the good sense & foresight to get out before they went belly up.


It could be argued that they would have gone belly up no matter what point sir Alex chose to leave. Him not being there was always going to leave a huge hole, maybe it would have been better if he left when they were the best, left on top and left a new manager with giggs, Scholes, van nistelrooy, Gary neville etc. This would leave a new manager with the best team in the league to build his own success from but considering they kept winning the risk probably wasn't worthwhile.
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Re: Tony Adams new RFL President : Sat Dec 15, 2018 2:43 pm  
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I don't know. He reinvented utd 3 times.


Yes, and if he'd have left when he originally said he would, in 2002, people would have probably said the same thing about him leaving at the right time, as Arsenal and Chelsea then emerged to leave United behind for a while.

But there's another lesson from United which is that David Gill left as CEO at the same time as SAF and there was wholesale change of the coaching and support staff. United lost a whole management structure and their recruitment since has been chaotic. They just throw huge sums of money about to sign players and then try to make a team out of them, where SAF spent big when he needed to but always had a considered approach to who he signed.

The argument that SAF left United with a 'rebuilding job' is way overblown. There is always churn among the top teams. You could also say Mancini left City with a rebuilding job at the same point, they had a lot of 30 year olds like Barry, Kolo and Yaya Toure, Lescott, also Tevez was unhappy. As for Liverpool, pretty much their whole team is different, I think only Henderson and Sturridge remain from when SAF was at United. City and Liverpool have rebuilt their teams far better than United have since he left. The real problem for United was they have had nobody at the club who has had a handle on recruitment or planning.
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Re: Tony Adams new RFL President : Mon Dec 17, 2018 3:02 pm  
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Some people don't need the experience to do a job.
I always believe if Sir Alex Ferguson was manager of Warrington, we'd be the biggest most successful team ever.

Clive Woodward was thinking about becoming a Premier League manager once
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Re: Tony Adams new RFL President : Mon Dec 17, 2018 5:25 pm  
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Clive Woodward was thinking about becoming a Premier League manager once

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Re: Tony Adams new RFL President : Mon Dec 17, 2018 9:02 pm  
Woodward went to Southampton for a while to work with Harry Redknapp but it didn't last long or go particularly well.
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