Re: New deal for three Wigan Players : Tue Dec 18, 2018 6:25 pm  

Wigan Peer wrote:

You know how to upset a certain section Rogues... Behave!!

I have an honours degree in it. If you think I do well on here you should see the comments on Red Vee

Re: New deal for three Wigan Players : Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:46 pm  

I thought Powell may be the next captain.

I think he’s great in defence, in fact, I’d go as far as to say that he’s one of the best defensive hooker in the league. He’s not fast and never will be, but I’m with the crowd that believes he’s vastly underrated at hooker, and unfairly criticised (although I feel the same way about Sarginson).

Re: New deal for three Wigan Players : Thu Dec 20, 2018 8:35 am  

Rumours of NRL interest in Smith after his recent performances against the schoolboys.

Re: New deal for three Wigan Players : Thu Dec 20, 2018 9:20 am  

Trainman wrote:

Rumours of NRL interest in Smith after his recent performances against the schoolboys.

Now I know the potential to get lambasted here but..........

I really think putting the kid in that environment would be superb for his development. We really struggle in this country no matter who the player or the club to bring on half back talent. It is obviously the weakest area our country has in terms of preparing the young lads for first team rugby, but then keep them improving while in the first team.

George Williams is a perfect example of this, yes he is still young but for the amount of not only first team but big game experience he now has he really should be a more consistent player than he currently is. Hopefully Lam can really impose himself on George as he has said he will and sharpen his game up to a point where he is back to tearing teams apart onm a regular basis. We need this for Wigans and Englands sake. When you look down under you see sides putting their aith in young halves like Brodie Croft, Nathan Cleary etc and they are not only playing but controlling games due to the coaching their ability deserved.

Admittedly I have only seen Smith in the two games but I was highly impressed and can see why your staff rate him so highly. I remember watching academy highlights and games when Williams and Hampshire were inthe academy and their sheer turn of pace and speedof thought was superb. This kid though seems to have the perfect all round game and apart form anything his defensive ability is a breath of fresh air for a young English half.

Probably me being selfish as an England fan and non Wigan fan, but the kid is a real talent and his junior club and Wigan academy staff should be really proud he is being talked of in this way. I wouldn't be surprised if Smithies was being looked at too as Smith controlled the game and the Leeds forwards terrorised their opposite numbers, Smithies for me was the glue that held the pack together and was phenomenal

Re: New deal for three Wigan Players : Thu Dec 20, 2018 4:50 pm  

thepimp007 wrote:

Now I know the potential to get lambasted here but..........

I really think putting the kid in that environment would be superb for his development. We really struggle in this country no matter who the player or the club to bring on half back talent. It is obviously the weakest area our country has in terms of preparing the young lads for first team rugby, but then keep them improving while in the first team.

George Williams is a perfect example of this, yes he is still young but for the amount of not only first team but big game experience he now has he really should be a more consistent player than he currently is. Hopefully Lam can really impose himself on George as he has said he will and sharpen his game up to a point where he is back to tearing teams apart onm a regular basis. We need this for Wigans and Englands sake. When you look down under you see sides putting their aith in young halves like Brodie Croft, Nathan Cleary etc and they are not only playing but controlling games due to the coaching their ability deserved.

Admittedly I have only seen Smith in the two games but I was highly impressed and can see why your staff rate him so highly. I remember watching academy highlights and games when Williams and Hampshire were inthe academy and their sheer turn of pace and speedof thought was superb. This kid though seems to have the perfect all round game and apart form anything his defensive ability is a breath of fresh air for a young English half.

Probably me being selfish as an England fan and non Wigan fan, but the kid is a real talent and his junior club and Wigan academy staff should be really proud he is being talked of in this way. I wouldn't be surprised if Smithies was being looked at too as Smith controlled the game and the Leeds forwards terrorised their opposite numbers, Smithies for me was the glue that held the pack together and was phenomenal

The full squad going over would be great for the national team but not great for the competition. The Aussies players were inferior to our lads but due to the huge gap in our development pathway from 19’s to first team I bet more of their lads will go on to have successful careers.

Re: New deal for three Wigan Players : Thu Dec 20, 2018 6:30 pm  

NickyKiss wrote:

The full squad going over would be great for the national team but not great for the competition. The Aussies players were inferior to our lads but due to the huge gap in our development pathway from 19’s to first team I bet more of their lads will go on to have successful careers.

Totally agree. You are completely right it would devalue the future of our product. For me the level that Super League is at at this moment in time is a bit behind what it was a few years ago, really hoping this new influx of imports the right side of 30 will help lift the competition.

And yes for the future of the competition we need these lads breaking through into first team rugby and laying a marker down. There were some kids in that side that could be really exciting players in the years to come lets hope they all keep developing. Be great for Smith to get a loan move to Widnes that I though I saw someone mention might happen

Re: New deal for three Wigan Players : Thu Dec 20, 2018 7:13 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

Sam Powell will be the next Wigan captain.

thats a great call that. he is tailor made for the job. doesnt miss games no matter what, recently vc on knights tour. well respected player

Re: New deal for three Wigan Players : Thu Dec 20, 2018 7:16 pm  

Grimmy wrote:

Oh come on, by that definition Ricky Bibey was better than Eorl Crabtree and Andy Lynch. Let's not fall into the trap of assuming all of our players are better than our opponents just because we have won trophies. Out of interest, which (of any) of the following would you say he's better than? Roby, Clarke, Houghton, McIlorum, Parcell, Leuluai, McShane, Leeming, Lunt.

always like the Ricky Bibey one ha ha ha ha theres also the bryn Hargreaves one also. being totally honest with you i would prefer Roby and Parcell over Powell but you can keep the rest.

Re: New deal for three Wigan Players : Sun Dec 23, 2018 10:56 pm  

Powell used to have quite turn of speed as a young half back but appeared to lose it after a series of injuries and bulking up to play hooker.

[DaveO]

Re: New deal for three Wigan Players : Mon Dec 24, 2018 11:00 am  

JonnyBroad wrote:

thats a great call that. he is tailor made for the job. doesnt miss games no matter what, recently vc on knights tour. well respected player

You are right he did under Wane miss very few games and that is why he should never be considered for captain because despite being virtually ever present, I can't recall him stepping up to the plate leadership-wise once when the team looked rudderless.