Re: The blunt truth : Thu Oct 10, 2019 10:13 pm  

="Last Son of Wigan"]Gallen came through as an i running SR forward before becoming one of the best 13s oner the past 20 years. Partington doesn't play like him in the slightest, and to be 'blunt' I'd be surprised if Partington is anything like close to the player Gallen was.[/quote]

Galen isn't a 13 he's a prop.
I don't think that there is a decent 13 anywhere in the world. The games obsession with power and defence together with too many substitutions has made the 13 obsolete.
Galleon couldn't pass like SOL did against Saints in 2014 if his life depended upon it.

Re: The blunt truth : Thu Oct 10, 2019 10:31 pm  

I'm sorry could/should have chosen my words more carefully. When I said grow into that type
I was literally meaning grow develop physically. Gallen waa a modern player of similar size when he started out and he bulked strengthened over time.

Re: The blunt truth : Fri Oct 11, 2019 5:29 am  

Paul Gallen always was a loose forward apart from when he was asked to play prop which he did for Australia NSW and Cronulla on the odd occasion

Re: The blunt truth : Fri Oct 11, 2019 5:32 am  

post wrote:

People can compare any young player with any other legendary player, doesn’t mean they’ll be anything like.

I’m not convinced by Partington, either makes no yards or falls over before the defensive line. I’d love us to put the feelers out with Ryan Sutton, he’s improved massively and he’s just what we need.

Sutton has signed a new contract at Canberra he has said that he wants to stay out there

Re: The blunt truth : Fri Oct 11, 2019 6:22 am  

Itchy Arsenal wrote:

Galen isn't a 13 he's a prop.
I don't think that there is a decent 13 anywhere in the world. The games obsession with power and defence together with too many substitutions has made the 13 obsolete.
Galleon couldn't pass like SOL did against Saints in 2014 if his life depended upon it.

You’re quite right there IA.

The role of a #13 as the HB link is obsolete, the role of a 13 now is becoming more and more like a 3rd prop, SOL has been in that role for us this season. Props these days are being that link themselves, effectively putting HB’s+1 off the marker which is what the 13 used to do with props not passing and just taking a hit up. You could argue 13’s are more athletic which I would tend to agree with but you’ve only got to look at Luke Thompson who is as athletic as they come for a prop forward to see where it’s going.

Therefore the mooted Partington to 13 wouldn’t make any difference whatsoever. IMO you could put most young modern props at 13 and it wouldn’t change the complexion or attack of a team.

Re: The blunt truth : Fri Oct 11, 2019 10:40 am  

Itchy Arsenal wrote:

="Last Son of Wigan"]Gallen came through as an i running SR forward before becoming one of the best 13s oner the past 20 years. Partington doesn't play like him in the slightest, and to be 'blunt' I'd be surprised if Partington is anything like close to the player Gallen was.

Galen isn't a 13 he's a prop.
I don't think that there is a decent 13 anywhere in the world. The games obsession with power and defence together with too many substitutions has made the 13 obsolete.
Galleon couldn't pass like SOL did against Saints in 2014 if his life depended upon it.[/quote]

That’s a completely different point.
I was discussing Partington and Gallen.

Re: The blunt truth : Fri Oct 11, 2019 10:41 am  

warrior1872 wrote:

Paul Gallen always was a loose forward apart from when he was asked to play prop which he did for Australia NSW and Cronulla on the odd occasion

His first few games at the Sharks were actually as a SR. Then he quickly moved to play 13.

Re: The blunt truth : Fri Oct 11, 2019 10:45 am  

That Mon wrote:

I'm sorry could/should have chosen my words more carefully. When I said grow into that type
I was literally meaning grow develop physically. Gallen waa a modern player of similar size when he started out and he bulked strengthened over time.

I actually feel a little bad now. Sorry mate!

Re: The blunt truth : Fri Oct 11, 2019 10:46 am  

Last Son of Wigan wrote: His first few games at the Sharks were actually as a SR. Then he quickly moved to play 13. https://youtu.be/6AdjzK7vTqc Have a little look...

Last Son of Wigan wrote: His first few games at the Sharks were actually as a SR. Then he quickly moved to play 13. https://youtu.be/6AdjzK7vTqc Have a little look...

Re: The blunt truth : Fri Oct 11, 2019 4:17 pm  

We should have given Kibula a chance at 13, he has the natural size and ball handling skills to play that position very well, he really started to progress at Swinton towards the last 5/6 games and we should have given him another year imo