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Re: 2020 season tickets : Wed Apr 08, 2020 6:33 am  
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So you want them to take a pay cut which reduces the amount of money they pay towards vital services and then want them to give money to help towards vital services?


They can still pay towards the vital services you are on about by making a substantial donation without taking a pay cut, especially in a time of need like at the present.
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Re: 2020 season tickets : Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:00 am  
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Just kicks a ball about? It might seem a charmed life but do you know how hard it is to become a top level footballer? It's probably the most competitive job in the world. No it isnt heroic etc but put it this way a normal person dropped into a Premier league game would look ridiculous, drop a normal person onto a film set and they could well do a decent job (many examples of untrained actors making a success in that nonsense industry). Top actors get paid more than top footballers, they never get the stick footballers get.

You can dress it up as much as you like but he still kicks a ball about. I’m not a big fan of actors either so I side with you on that one.
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Re: 2020 season tickets : Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:02 am  
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And if you were in the top 50 nurses you'd still earn a fraction of what Rooney does. The problem is that society places ridiculous values on some people's 'worth' while completely undervaluing people of true worth. That's why the various Kardashians are collectively worth billions for doing...well, you tell me!

Not Rooney's fault, or other footballers, actors, TV or social media stars for that matter, but a problem society as a whole should address. That doesn't mean that the aforementioned shouldn't, in the meantime, recognise what a privileged position they are in and act accordingly.

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Re: 2020 season tickets : Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:13 am  
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Just kicks a ball about? It might seem a charmed life but do you know how hard it is to become a top level footballer? It's probably the most competitive job in the world. No it isnt heroic etc but put it this way a normal person dropped into a Premier league game would look ridiculous, drop a normal person onto a film set and they could well do a decent job (many examples of untrained actors making a success in that nonsense industry). Top actors get paid more than top footballers, they never get the stick footballers get.


Don't try to justify the obscene earnings with others in the entertainment world like actors. presenters, models or even directors in the business world.

Compare them to those doing vital life saving jobs like Doctors, Consultants, Surgeons in the medical profession.

As for being a hard life getting to the top, it is not so hard if your parents know the right people or you have a parent who who also played the game and has the contacts within the game.

Most of today's footballers at the top deserve all the stick they get as they have proved that they are no different than some of the other people you are on about as they have proved that like them, they are no different where greed and selfishness is concerned.

As far as I am concerned, footballers are no more important than the farmers, bakers, food processing workers who produce the things for our everyday living which at the present time has shown to be true!
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Re: 2020 season tickets : Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:27 am  
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They can still pay towards the vital services you are on about by making a substantial donation without taking a pay cut, especially in a time of need like at the present.


How do you know they don't already?
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Re: 2020 season tickets : Wed Apr 08, 2020 10:44 am  
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Just kicks a ball about? It might seem a charmed life but do you know how hard it is to become a top level footballer? It's probably the most competitive job in the world. No it isnt heroic etc but put it this way a normal person dropped into a Premier league game would look ridiculous, drop a normal person onto a film set and they could well do a decent job (many examples of untrained actors making a success in that nonsense industry). Top actors get paid more than top footballers, they never get the stick footballers get.

The only sport that i can think of that is as hard to get to the top as football is American Football,it is so hard to make it its ridiculous
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Re: 2020 season tickets : Wed Apr 08, 2020 10:58 am  
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How do you know they don't already?


Some clearly are, some will be and we won’t know but the majority won’t be. They’ll be waiting till the negotiations have taken place and dragged out for as long as possible.

In other footballer news, they’re clearly filling their time productively, hosting sex parties, visiting friends or hosting club training sessions down the local park. They live in a bubble the majority of them. Yes they’re being scapegoated to a degree but they don’t help themselves.
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Re: 2020 season tickets : Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:41 pm  
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In other footballer news, they’re clearly filling their time productively, hosting sex parties, visiting friends or hosting club training sessions down the local park. They live in a bubble the majority of them. Yes they’re being scapegoated to a degree but they don’t help themselves.


Agree
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Re: 2020 season tickets : Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:58 pm  
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Where is the logic in the poor subsidising the lifestyle of the rich?


It's the British way...
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Re: 2020 season tickets : Thu Apr 09, 2020 7:12 am  
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How do you know they don't already?


No doubt a minority are, but I think you find that the majority arde not!
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