Re: Huddersfield Game : Thu Aug 20, 2020 9:37 am  

Uncle Rico wrote:

I'm not a Price apologist but this is not an ordinary season and whilst I agree that our rugby has been stilted for some time but why don't we wait until nearer the end of it before sacking the coach? I think that would be fair.

You'd be up for relieving Price of his duties if we "somehow got a trophy or two this season" How would that work if one of those trophies was a GF win, would your judgement still be based on excitement rather than results, a metric which seemed to work against his predecessor?

I get your frustration but perhaps you think that Warrington should follow the Juventus model, or that this year's GF win is as worthless as an algorithmically set A Level grade

As I've said before, Price has his eggs all in one basket, which is that if he doesn't deliver trophies , then he hasn't the consolation of at least providing a half decent watch for the fans.

He actually might get away with it this season if he gets a CC or SL crown, as there are no paying spectators, but in a normal season would he get away with the inevitable drop off in crowds if the decline in quality RL continues as it has for quite a while now?

I know we, as a club, are desperate to get the monkey off our backs with regards to a SL crown, but is having to put up with absolutely awful RL in order to do it, really what we fans want?

Re: Huddersfield Game : Thu Aug 20, 2020 9:42 am  

Smiffy27 wrote:

Reality is that clubs cannot afford to sack a coach as quickly as one or two might want. If the criteria for sacking was that some fans want it ... not many coaches would last past the honeymoon period of about three months. Watson seems to remain relatively popular at Salford probably because they half expect to be near the bottom of the league each year ... they have low expectation.
Simply put ... you can't keep sacking your coach ... it costs too much.

We have had 4 coaches in the last 18 years. I'd suggest that we are actually too loyal to them.

Re: Huddersfield Game : Thu Aug 20, 2020 9:46 am  

I actually think we look less than the sum of our parts at the moment, which is the reverse of what I think a coach should achieve. I wouldn’t sack him now though, may as well let this bizarre season run its course and then take stock.

Re: Huddersfield Game : Thu Aug 20, 2020 9:52 am  

re. Slot Metre
You are right. 4 coaches in 18 years isn't that many. But at the moment,I reckon, we will have to be careful how we spend our money.
What will be worth watching is what happens at Hull. They have very high expectations.

[Uncle Rico]

Re: Huddersfield Game : Thu Aug 20, 2020 9:56 am  

Dita thanks for the reply I'm by and large in agreement with it. However, it's not what you were advocating in your previous post get rid now at all costs can't be solution in this year of all years can it.

It's a truncated format and will will likely be as the at the top at the finish as it is now with 6 or 7 teams going for 4 play off places. Whilst not excited by the displays I've seen so far i'm hoping that our squad and general play will improve we certainly have the personnel.

I'm not saying that we will win it BUT if this was a Leeds or Wigan of old, some might comment that the sign of a top side is to pick up the points in close fought games whilst not playing particularly well....watch out when they click at the business end of the season

Here's hoping that this applies to us but if it doesn't out of the cup finish 5th then judgments can be made sooner rather than later for me

Re: Huddersfield Game : Thu Aug 20, 2020 10:05 am  

I think fans get too caught up in this stuff about how a coach comes over to the media. If you're winning, anything a coach says will be hailed as the words of a genius. If you're losing, anything he says will just irritate fans further. If Liverpool had finished 16th in the league, imagine what a prat people would think Klopp was. They would say stop trying to be a philosopher on life and learn to coach football.

I don't think a coach has to be someone who could do a Ted talk to inspire players. We're not talking about managing a sales team that you have to energise at 8am every day. They are managing northern working class lads and aussies who want to be dealt with straight and can see through fakes. Guys like Shaun Wane, Daryl Powell, Brian McDermott, are never going to be charismatic media personalities. What you can sense with them is authenticity. They understand the game and they aren't going to bullpoop a player. They don't have to work to get respect because players will automatically give it to them, and you can imagine that if you're in a dressing room and one of the players starts moaning about one of those coaches the other players will tell them to wind it in.

Fans didn't always like them either. McDermott had a large "McDermott out" campaign amongst Leeds fans every year that they were winning trophies. Over on the Wigan board there was always a lot of debate about Wane, strangely he seems to be more highly rated by Wire fans than Wiganers.

Re: Huddersfield Game : Thu Aug 20, 2020 10:32 am  

I was looking forward to the media interviews with "Sean Edwards" but it was not to be.
He takes no crap from whoever is dishing out the usual twaddly questions.
Well worth watching.

Re: Huddersfield Game : Thu Aug 20, 2020 11:12 am  

Uncle Rico wrote:

It's a truncated format and will will likely be as the at the top at the finish as it is now with 6 or 7 teams going for 4 play off places. Whilst not excited by the displays I've seen so far i'm hoping that our squad and general play will improve we certainly have the personnel.

I'm not saying that we will win it BUT if this was a Leeds or Wigan of old, some might comment that the sign of a top side is to pick up the points in close fought games whilst not playing particularly well....watch out when they click at the business end of the season

Here's hoping that this applies to us but if it doesn't out of the cup finish 5th then judgments can be made sooner rather than later for me

We won't win anything playing as we do now. Only seriously better performances will take us past Pies/ Saints/Cas/ Catalans and one or two others ( Hudds are still improving). I'm with Rico here insofar as no improvement = no trophies, but grinding out a few wins to build confidence is no bad thing right now. Have you noticed that, when 'set-free' of the game plan by an opportunity from deep ( like Lineham's and Widdop's tries) we can look inspired, skillful and daring? We need to work to release more of that.

Re: Huddersfield Game : Thu Aug 20, 2020 11:37 am  

We have scored a few from a distance & Widdop/King/Lineham are looking, relatively, exciting. Don't worry I have not gone totally mad.
Widdop's jink off his left foot (for that try) was a cracker.

Re: Huddersfield Game : Thu Aug 20, 2020 4:08 pm  

Smiffy27 wrote:

We have scored a few from a distance & Widdop/King/Lineham are looking, relatively, exciting. Don't worry I have not gone totally mad.
Widdop's jink off his left foot (for that try) was a cracker.

As you say, we can do it. Let's hope for more of it