Re: Standard of Refs : Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:52 pm  

NickyKiss wrote:

The Leeds fan are still trying to blame their defeat on a finger up the bum hole, so you’ll never win.

I know mate. We can but try...

Re: Standard of Refs : Sun Nov 22, 2020 11:32 am  

Never mind the refs - its the touch judges that need sacking off. Ive lost count of the number of times a video ref has had to adjudicate on a foot in touch question yet the replay shows the linesman literally 3 yards behind the player looking down the line.

They literally serve no purpose if they cant spot a foot on a line from 9 feet away.

Re: Standard of Refs : Sun Nov 22, 2020 11:47 am  

I’d go along with most responses on this thread.

Refs will make errors, they will make calls that partisan fans or those with agendas will disagree with but overall they don’t do a bad job.

I was going to say every decision is scrutinised but that’s not true. All the decisions that sky (who seem to have their own agenda) decide to focus on are scrutinised. For example the elbow in Isa’s face, if that had been done by one of sky’s pantomime villains such as Micky Mac or Partington we’d have seen about 20 replays.

I blame sky for much of the pressure refs are under, they have a massive influence on the opinion of the fans. I just wish they would start to focus on the positive aspects of the game rather than creating controversy at every opportunity.

Re: Standard of Refs : Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:24 pm  

muttywhitedog wrote:

Never mind the refs - its the touch judges that need sacking off. Ive lost count of the number of times a video ref has had to adjudicate on a foot in touch question yet the replay shows the linesman literally 3 yards behind the player looking down the line.

They literally serve no purpose if they cant spot a foot on a line from 9 feet away.

Surely anyone with basic knowledge of the game can tell they're told to send them to the video ref when they're close try decisions regardless of whether they are fairly confident of what the decision should be. Why do you think that over 90% of the time they send it up as the correct decision for touch decisions, and nearly always get touch decisions right in general play as well?

Either they give the decisions in real time and you occasionally get the odd vital error like the 2019 CC Final, or we send the close ones up to the video ref and you moan that the on field officials can't/won't make a decision. Can't win whatever they do.

FWIW I think the video ref makes tries anti-climactic, as you can't properly celebrate a try until you have seen a load of replays and it's finally given. As such, I'd prefer to go to a system similar to the NFL. The on field guys make their decision, it's awarded (or not) then the video ref gets a couple of looks to tell the ref whether he wants to trigger a review (in which case hold the game up briefly whilst he does). I'd limit this to touch, dead ball line, offside grounding decisions as those are where the bigger errors generally come from IMO. I can live with the on field guys dealing with knock ons, obstruction etc.

Re: Standard of Refs : Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:25 pm  

Grimmy wrote:

Surely anyone with basic knowledge of the game can tell they're told to send them to the video ref when they're close try decisions regardless of whether they are fairly confident of what the decision should be. Why do you think that over 90% of the time they send it up as the correct decision for touch decisions, and nearly always get touch decisions right in general play as well?

Either they give the decisions in real time and you occasionally get the odd vital error like the 2019 CC Final, or we send the close ones up to the video ref and you moan that the on field officials can't/won't make a decision. Can't win whatever they do.

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Re: Standard of Refs : Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:35 pm  

Jukesays wrote:

I was awaiting your reply
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It looks confident and decisive making the decision in real time but it's a numbers game. Eventually they get burned, it gets replayed over and over and everyone questions why they didn't use the technology available.

Re: Standard of Refs : Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:17 pm  

NickyKiss wrote:

The Leeds fan are still trying to blame their defeat on a finger up the bum hole, so you’ll never win.

You must see things i do not as every Leeds fan i know accepts we were 2nd best on the night , but if that does not fit your agenda then fair enough

Re: Standard of Refs : Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:27 pm  

Grimmy wrote:

It looks confident and decisive making the decision in real time but it's a numbers game. Eventually they get burned, it gets replayed over and over and everyone questions why they didn't use the technology available.

The touch Judges donanlotnof unnoticed work, because its notnlikenthe opdndays were a balding bloke comes running on waving a flag people think they arent contributing

Re: Standard of Refs : Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:51 pm  

Jukesays wrote:

The touch Judges donanlotnof unnoticed work, because its notnlikenthe opdndays were a balding bloke comes running on waving a flag people think they arent contributing

Well yeah exactly, the comms kits are there for a reason. My favourite one heard at amateur grounds regularly is "He's offside touch judge! Get on with your flag!" as though anyone in the history of rugby league has seen a touch judge run on and stop the game for an offside. Extra points if the player is half a metre offside and nowhere near the ball.

I'd love the RFL to do a "mic'd up" of a touch judge to show fans the input they have one day. It's all recorded already so wouldn't cost anything extra. I think they tend to be too busy firefighting so don't really do positive things like that. Maybe some 5 minute videos diving into specific rules that people tend not to understand properly (I'm thinking obstruction, momentum on a forward pass, what constitutes a shoulder charge).

Re: Standard of Refs : Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:47 pm  

ploinerrhino wrote:

You must see things i do not as every Leeds fan i know accepts we were 2nd best on the night , but if that does not fit your agenda then fair enough

I’ve read plenty of comments (most on other platforms) saying had the two incidents been adjudged differently you’d have gone on to win the game.

No agenda, just black and white facts. The Leeds fans that say you were second best on the night and credit Catalans with a deserved victory are correct.