Re: Hardaker : Tue Jun 01, 2021 10:17 am  

Oh no the Tetevano ban is still getting mentioned......

Re: Hardaker : Tue Jun 01, 2021 10:44 am  

I think the issue is someone who initiates it by headbutting likely gets half the ban of someone punching as retaliation. If someone headbutted me, I think I would punch them back.

Surely a headbutt is worse than a punch too.

I didn't like the way Hardaker had his arm between the Catalan players legs either. Hardaker should have got a 5 match ban for me.

Re: Hardaker : Tue Jun 01, 2021 11:50 am  

rugbyleague88 wrote:

I think the issue is someone who initiates it by headbutting likely gets half the ban of someone punching as retaliation. If someone headbutted me, I think I would punch them back.

Surely a headbutt is worse than a punch too.

I didn't like the way Hardaker had his arm between the Catalan players legs either. Hardaker should have got a 5 match ban for me.

Yeah, anyone with any sense could see Hardaker has just lost it. He's giving Tomkins a good, sustained grope. Then he headbutts him. With his previous how he's not sat on a 6 or 7 week ban is beyond me. The Wigan fans claim it was nothing, and the contact from the headbutt wasn't spectacular, but it's the complete opposite of how players should be behaving. They'd rather completely ignore it than look at the fact that he's a liability.

Re: Hardaker : Tue Jun 01, 2021 12:45 pm  

Shabino wrote:

Yeah it probably is, but I think we are taking issue that Tet got 4 matches for far less, with no malicious intent....!

I don't think what Hardaker did was worse. A a late shoulder with some contact to the head is probably more likely to cause injury than what ZH did.

Re: Hardaker : Tue Jun 01, 2021 3:59 pm  

Just seen this, definitely leading in with the head but not a real head butt, 2 matches seems fair. J Tomkins should get 4-6 for running in and punching, scroat bag player like his brother

Re: Hardaker : Tue Jun 01, 2021 5:07 pm  

Very similar to Sir Kev's effort on Luke Dorn. For which, from memory, he got two.

Re: Hardaker : Tue Jun 01, 2021 5:51 pm  

Clearwing wrote:

Very similar to Sir Kev's effort on Luke Dorn. For which, from memory, he got two.

Thought it was sending iff sufficient, Hardakers was a bit worse but neither were Steve Hampson on Gary Freeman.

Re: Hardaker : Tue Jun 01, 2021 8:28 pm  

Joel Tomkins 4 match ban for his return fire after the 'headbutt'. Oh dear. Nevermind.

Re: Hardaker : Tue Jun 01, 2021 8:36 pm  

I hope we don't need a discussion on Tetevano's ban every time an opposition player goes to the disciplinary. Let it go folks.

2 for Hardaker and 4 for Tomkins sound about right to me having watched the incident a few times.

Re: Hardaker : Tue Jun 01, 2021 10:55 pm  

Exeter Rhino wrote:

I hope we don't need a discussion on Tetevano's ban every time an opposition player goes to the disciplinary. Let it go folks.

2 for Hardaker and 4 for Tomkins sound about right to me having watched the incident a few times.

Quite, all of those are in the bounds of where they should have been.
The lack of understanding about the disciplinary and the criteria/charges/punishments handed out was painful when Tetevano was banned, regurgitating the same incorrect statements every time there is a big disciplinary decision in some attempt to make Leeds the victims is tedious indeed.

Sinfield was indeed two games, arguably for worse than what Hardaker did although his track record was of course essentially perfect. It did, however, get him back in time for a Cup semi final, which we won - and the conspiracy theories about that from opposition fans were very loud indeed!