Re: John Winder : Fri Aug 27, 2021 9:19 pm  

.................again

Re: John Winder : Fri Aug 27, 2021 9:38 pm  

TheWarringtonWolve69 wrote:

Too right we will. We have the best coach in super league next season

Powells strength is and always has been getting the best out of his players on a budget, he did it at Fev, he's done it at Cas, he brings in workhorses and turns them into decent SL players. He did a brilliant job in 2017 with Orr and Sheridan on there elusive attack but was quickly found out and ever since Cas have been just about OK. I'll give it half a season before you're calling Powell out.

Re: John Winder : Fri Aug 27, 2021 11:58 pm  

I dunno. Powell will have a better squad at Warrington than he's had at Castleford.

Re: John Winder : Sat Aug 28, 2021 7:58 am  

The test for Powell is whether he can do it at a club that will expect rather than hope to win. On paper it should be Warrington’s year.

For us, I really hope we can freshen up the attack coaching.

Re: John Winder : Sat Aug 28, 2021 10:25 am  

How did John Winder get the job in the first place? Hardly a glittering CV.

Re: John Winder : Sat Aug 28, 2021 10:52 am  

Porterjoh wrote:

How did John Winder get the job in the first place? Hardly a glittering CV.

He was an assistant / junior coach in the Melbourne storm before coaching Wigan academy / reserves until he was promoted to first team assistant after eith harris or deacon left.

Our attack is dreadful. He is the attack coach.

Re: John Winder : Sat Aug 28, 2021 3:00 pm  

Is Winder specifically attack coach? I've never seen him being referred to as such, just that under Wane it was reported that he was the one doing a lot of work with the players in attack. That could easily have just been something that was necessary because he was the only assistant coach we had once Deacon left, and would have allowed Wane to put his focus into other areas. Now that we've got a new head coach and 3 assistants roles and responsibilities could be different.

If Wane is going to be in charge of choosing who is part of the coaching team next season I can't imagine Winder going anywhere. He's his biggest fan.

Re: John Winder : Sat Aug 28, 2021 3:42 pm  

I don’t blame one person person alone for our current predicament.

It’s a case of a number of people not getting it right and whilst Winder has some involvement I don’t think it’s as simple as blaming out performances on him or even our attack…or lack of it.

The best attacking teams I have seen have always had a strong pack, allowing the backs the space to spread the ball at the right time.

This Wigan team simply has no go forward down the middle, I can’t imagine this to be the responsibility of Winder.

On another note the responsibility must lie with people who are paid ten times as much to ensure we have the tools to do the job.

Re: John Winder : Sat Aug 28, 2021 4:44 pm  

Egg Chasing wrote:

I think you're right

Sadly

Re: John Winder : Sat Aug 28, 2021 6:11 pm  

The best our attack ever looked in recent times was 2012 with Iestyn Harris looking after it, it wouldn't be a bad idea to bring him back as an Assistant.