Brexit Anyone? (2) : Fri Feb 03, 2017 2:06 pm  

wrencat1873 wrote:

How will Brexit make any difference ?
The deals with EDF, to build new Nuclear Power Stations have already been signed (prior to the referendum) and we have effectively agreed to I think a 30% increase by 2020 ?.
Unless you think that Brexit will change this, which it wont, you should expect your energy costs to rise steadily until 2020 and probably beyond.
If we were still digging coal from the ground we may still have some control but, instead, we have put our energy supplies in French hands, oh yeah and then fallen out with them

All good stuff.

At least we will have "control"

Who mentioned nuclear stations and price increases. And as for this latest increase it took our government by surprise ... so no arrangement there then.
And after that you agree with the point I was making about putting ourselves at the mercy of our lost friends.

Not sure any of them liked us anyway ..

Re: Brexit Anyone? : Fri Feb 03, 2017 2:38 pm  

Stand-Offish wrote:

Not sure any of them liked us anyway ..

Apart from the economic powerhouse that is Malta; they've said this morning that they've always been our friend and they always will be - which is very sweet, but not especially reassuring.

Re: Brexit Anyone? : Fri Feb 03, 2017 3:00 pm  

Stand-Offish wrote:

Who mentioned nuclear stations and price increases. And as for this latest increase it took our government by surprise ... so no arrangement there then.
And after that you agree with the point I was making about putting ourselves at the mercy of our lost friends.

Not sure any of them liked us anyway ..

You mentioned that you would be "surprised if Brexit didnt result in a change of tack"
Brexit wont make any difference unless we renege on the deal with EDF to build new power stations, which isn't going to happen.
You may not have mentioned power stations but, we are locked in to year on year increases because of that deal.

Re: Brexit Anyone? : Fri Feb 03, 2017 6:17 pm  

wrencat1873 wrote: You mentioned that you would be "surprised if Brexit didnt result in a change of tack" Brexit wont make any difference unless we renege on the deal with EDF to build new power stations, which isn't going to happen. You may not have mentioned power stations but, we are locked in to year on year increases because of that deal. You KNOW some stuff you do, and your certainty and faith is touching but possibly misplaced. A nuclear plant takes ten years to get built and so is irrevant until it happens and produces some juice. Personally I would bin the French and their technology and money and bin the Chinese and their money. Pay any penalties, then get the technology and cash from the States. Read this .... http://www.theweek.co.uk/60778/hinkley- ... -by-brexit More up to date but same message ... http://www.hl.co.uk/news/2017/1/30/hink ... -by-brexit And one other thing you brought in EDF, I was talking specifically about nPower putting prices up ... a German owned company. So a French company can dictate what the Germans charge can it? It's a strange old world where one company can let another company do all the work and still match their price increases. Who would build a nuclear station eh? Estimated cost £18 Billion .... if past experience is anything to go by it will be 3 or 4 times that. And if we don't pay, they can down tools at £18 Billion. Some penalties no doubt, but they can plead poverty. D Edit....I wouldn't get the technology from the States ...too old fashioned.

wrencat1873 wrote: You mentioned that you would be "surprised if Brexit didnt result in a change of tack" Brexit wont make any difference unless we renege on the deal with EDF to build new power stations, which isn't going to happen. You may not have mentioned power stations but, we are locked in to year on year increases because of that deal. You KNOW some stuff you do, and your certainty and faith is touching but possibly misplaced. A nuclear plant takes ten years to get built and so is irrevant until it happens and produces some juice. Personally I would bin the French and their technology and money and bin the Chinese and their money. Pay any penalties, then get the technology and cash from the States. Read this .... http://www.theweek.co.uk/60778/hinkley- ... -by-brexit More up to date but same message ... http://www.hl.co.uk/news/2017/1/30/hink ... -by-brexit And one other thing you brought in EDF, I was talking specifically about nPower putting prices up ... a German owned company. So a French company can dictate what the Germans charge can it? It's a strange old world where one company can let another company do all the work and still match their price increases. Who would build a nuclear station eh? Estimated cost £18 Billion .... if past experience is anything to go by it will be 3 or 4 times that. And if we don't pay, they can down tools at £18 Billion. Some penalties no doubt, but they can plead poverty. D Edit....I wouldn't get the technology from the States ...too old fashioned.

Re: Brexit Anyone? : Mon Feb 06, 2017 1:16 pm  

Some interesting stats on the referendum today, from BBC News: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38762034

Some interesting stats on the referendum today, from BBC News: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38762034

Re: Brexit Anyone? : Mon Feb 06, 2017 1:42 pm  

DGM wrote: Some interesting stats on the referendum today, from BBC News: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38762034 With age comes wisdom.

DGM wrote: Some interesting stats on the referendum today, from BBC News: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38762034 With age comes wisdom.

Re: Brexit Anyone? : Thu Feb 09, 2017 11:48 am  

Dally wrote:

With age comes wisdom.

You show very little evidence of that. Being older may give you experience, but that isnt always good. This board is full of older people that have some very jaundiced views and very little knowledge beyond what they WANT to believe.

Re: Brexit Anyone? : Thu Feb 09, 2017 1:54 pm  

PCollinson1990 wrote:

You show very little evidence of that. Being older may give you experience, but that isnt always good. This board is full of older people that have some very jaundiced views and very little knowledge beyond what they WANT to believe.

A string of unsubstantiated remarks there if ever I saw one! Were you trying to make a point or just fancied typing?

Re: Brexit Anyone? : Thu Feb 09, 2017 2:12 pm  

Dally wrote:

A string of unsubstantiated remarks there if ever I saw one! Were you trying to make a point or just fancied typing?

A bit like your remark saying with age comes wisdom.

Re: Brexit Anyone? : Thu Feb 09, 2017 2:17 pm  

LifeLongHKRFan wrote: A bit like your remark saying with age comes wisdom. Aside from the fact that mine was not a string of remarks: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/ ... sions.html

LifeLongHKRFan wrote: A bit like your remark saying with age comes wisdom. Aside from the fact that mine was not a string of remarks: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/ ... sions.html