Re: General Election 8th June : Fri May 05, 2017 7:27 am  

Going well for Labour in the local elections!! It could be worse they could be UKIP - every cloud has a silver lining.

Re: General Election 8th June : Fri May 05, 2017 9:01 am  

Indeed - the scale of the challenge at the GE is now clear; the strategy to mop up UKIP voters by appealing to their baser instincts has been successful, and if anything good comes out of this, it's that UKIP is now a spent force in UK politics - although I expect they'll still get their regular seat on the QT panel.

Labour have a lot to do to convince Tory voting working class folk that May and co will not represent their interests in any way shape or form; and potentially to mobilise young people, who tend to be Labour supporters, but don't actually vote. Interesting 6 weeks ahead!

[Bullseye]

Re: General Election 8th June : Fri May 05, 2017 10:24 am  

New rules around voter registration make it less likely the youth vote will play a significant part in the election. The Conservative Party have moved further to the right and will thus attract a lot of UKIP voters, they’ve effectively adopted UKIP policy. No point to UKIP now.

As for Labour I was intending to vote for them tactically in spite of the current leadership due to a particularly local issue to me. I’m hardly enthused. The Lib Dems aren’t going to attract much in the way of support from disaffected Labour supporters as their performance in government is still fresh in minds, though some may hold their noses and vote tactically. I suspect many will stay at home or vote Green.

Re: General Election 8th June : Fri May 05, 2017 10:46 am  

The issue for Labour is the leadership - with Corbyn fronting the campaign they are dead in the water - they have released all the good stuff e.g. 10k more police, higher education spend, repeal union legislation etc. Its down hill from here to obliteration.

Burnham is just biding his time

Re: General Election 8th June : Fri May 05, 2017 10:48 am  

Sal Paradise wrote:

The issue for Labour is the leadership - with Corbyn fronting the campaign they are dead in the water - they have released all the good stuff e.g. 10k more police, higher education spend, repeal union legislation etc. Its down hill from here to obliteration.

Burnham is just biding his time

Isn't Burnham Mayor of Manchester or something?

Re: General Election 8th June : Fri May 05, 2017 11:10 am  

How long will it be before the Tories commit to the "triple lock" on pensions?

It's obviously a vote winner with the "never had it so good's", but it's costing the country mega bucks. Are they confident enough to win without a substantial chunk of the grey vote?

It's all a bit deja vu for me t.b.h, replace Foot with Corbyn, Thatcher with May & Currie with Rudd - hey presto, back to the eighties.

[Bullseye]

Re: General Election 8th June : Fri May 05, 2017 11:11 am  

He's the Labour nominee for Manchester. He's the favourite so if he wins he'll not be in the frame to be Labour leader any time soon.

Re: General Election 8th June : Fri May 05, 2017 11:18 am  

As soon as the party coming knocking he is going to go running

He is a very credible candidate and would make a really good leader

Re: General Election 8th June : Fri May 05, 2017 11:36 am  

The Devil's Advocate wrote:

It's all a bit deja vu for me t.b.h, replace Foot with Corbyn, Thatcher with May & Currie with Rudd - hey presto, back to the eighties.

My thoughts exactly - depressing isn't it?

Re: General Election 8th June : Fri May 05, 2017 11:52 am  

Bullseye wrote:

I suspect many will stay at home or vote Green.

The Greens are waiting to see who Labour & the Libs put forward before deciding whether to go for combined opposition to Hopkins. It will be dependent on them agreeing to a few core policies - such as anti-incinerator, PR.