Re: News International – the story continues : Tue May 01, 2012 11:11 am  

Anakin Skywalker wrote: Ouch. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-17898029 Oh dear "It noted that the newspaper mogul had "excellent powers of recall and grasp of detail when it suited him"."

Anakin Skywalker wrote: Ouch. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-17898029 Oh dear "It noted that the newspaper mogul had "excellent powers of recall and grasp of detail when it suited him"."

Re: News International – the story continues : Tue May 01, 2012 11:24 am  

Chris28 wrote:

Oh dear

"It noted that the newspaper mogul had "excellent powers of recall and grasp of detail when it suited him"."

Indeed.
I would imagine any chances the Murdoch's had of having 100% ownership of BskyB has been nailed to the wall with this report.
I would say it was more likely that Ofcom will withdraw their licence.

Re: News International – the story continues : Tue May 01, 2012 12:34 pm  

Labour and the Lib-dem agree that uncle Rup isn't fit.
Tories and think he is a stand up guy.
Which side are fighting off claims that he has been to close to their party, leader and PM again?

Re: News International – the story continues : Tue May 01, 2012 12:48 pm  

Based on that BBC link, whatever you may think / surmise about RM that decision seems entirely based on subjective bias. Were the MPs acting in a "quasi-judicial" role? If they were, it would not seem from that report that they have discharged their duties particularly well. Are they immune from legal action? If so, one wonders what revelations may surface about them in the future.

Re: News International – the story continues : Tue May 01, 2012 1:00 pm  

How do you mean immune from legal action?

Becuase they may have libelled him? Or something else?

Re: News International – the story continues : Tue May 01, 2012 1:55 pm  

@BarnabyEdwards....Louise Mensch [defends] Rupert Murdoch [who owns] HarperCollins [who publish] Tilly Bagshawe [whose sister is] Louise Mensch. #SmallWorld

Re: News International – the story continues : Tue May 01, 2012 2:17 pm  

Chris28 wrote:

How do you mean immune from legal action?

Becuase they may have libelled him? Or something else?

He could lose a (presumably) lucrative position with News Corp.

News Corp could lose BSkyB, which would deplete the value of his shareholding.

He and / or NewsCorp could potentially suffer significant financial loss. Could NewsCorp / its shareholders sue the UK government if this report causes them to lose their licence?

Re: News International – the story continues : Tue May 01, 2012 2:34 pm  

Dally wrote:

He could lose a (presumably) lucrative position with News Corp.

News Corp could lose BSkyB, which would deplete the value of his shareholding.

He and / or NewsCorp could potentially suffer significant financial loss. Could NewsCorp / its shareholders sue the UK government if this report causes them to lose their licence?

No.
The question you need to ask is if this only went as far as the NoTW why on earth are the committee stating that Rups best mate and right hand man for decades has mislead them?
He doesn't work for NoTW he is employed rather higher up.

Rups has no one to blame but himself.
He has admitted he is at fault at Leveson, So how can he then say that the committee don't have a point?

He can't cause they do.

Re: News International – the story continues : Tue May 01, 2012 3:08 pm  

Anakin Skywalker wrote:

No.
The question you need to ask is if this only went as far as the NoTW why on earth are the committee stating that Rups best mate and right hand man for decades has mislead them?
He doesn't work for NoTW he is employed rather higher up.

Rups has no one to blame but himself.
He has admitted he is at fault at Leveson, So how can he then say that the committee don't have a point?

He can't cause they do.

But the report includes:

"Tory MPs objected specifically to the line branding Mr Murdoch "not fit", with one, Philip Davies, telling a press conference the committee had seen "absolutely no evidence" to endorse such a "completely ludicrous" conclusion."

Re: News International – the story continues : Tue May 01, 2012 3:57 pm  

Dally wrote:

But the report includes:

"Tory MPs objected specifically to the line branding Mr Murdoch "not fit", with one, Philip Davies, telling a press conference the committee had seen "absolutely no evidence" to endorse such a "completely ludicrous" conclusion."

I wonder why? Because from all the evidence that I've seen he clearly isn't fit to run an international company. And he certainly shouldn't be given full control of BskyB. I don't suppose it's possible to take away from him that bit that he already owns, but he certainly shouldn't be allowwed to control any more of it.
Let's be honest, in 2009 James Murdoch criticised the BBC and Offcom. Shortly afterwards oily Dave stood up and said "me too" and lo and behold suddenly the Sun is backing the Tories.
All the decisions which have hamstrung the Beeb since the Tories came to power have been taken by Hunt, and Hunt is known to be pro Murdoch. All Hunt's denials and "it was my special adviser's fault" are rubbish. Special advisers do as their boss instructs them - that's what they are there for.
I reckon Cameron assured Rupert before the election that he was a shoo in to get the licence. If the information about Newscorp's antics with phone hacking and squaring the police hadn't come to light in the meantime it's be a done deal by now and our broadcast media would be dominated by Rupert, with the Beeb and Channel 4 reduced to a similar status to US's public broadcaster. I hope we've had a lucky escape.